[Ammi]

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...oh thank the Lord, I thought it was just me because of how violent it was and because I’d avoided eye contact with the screen for so much of it...I felt that it had taken so much more out of the movie and story for me as well so I’d lost the storyline and point that other viewers wouldn’t lose...I mean, I presumed it wasn’t all real and some was imagined because his lawyer had confirmed that he hadn’t killed that guy...but had he killed anyone or no one at all and everything was imagined...had he killed some homeless people but not killed them in his own home...I mean he was obviously very disturbed, whether it be real or not ...but so much of the movie was given over to the actual killings themselves and the brutality of them...to have left it hanging like that....and I also had no place of being able to get inside his head either, to see any emotion...and even with extremely disturbed emotion, we’re still often able to see it in characters and we need to, I think...that for me is an essential because it does give me the ‘watchable’ bits to counter the violence I can’t watch...but there was nothing...neither love or contempt for humans, they just weren’t human to him...is what it felt...he felt nothing, they were nothing...what was the point and it took very little to trigger him and sometimes nothing at all because it was all preplanned...other than to say this ‘perfectly ordered person in nice expensive suits is actually a monster...but we didn’t even know that for sure ....I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same or if I just wasn’t getting it...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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...oh thank the Lord, I thought it was just me because of how violent it was and because I’d avoided eye contact with the screen for so much of it...I felt that it had taken so much more out of the movie and story for me as well so I’d lost the storyline and point that other viewers wouldn’t lose...I mean, I presumed it wasn’t all real and some was imagined because his lawyer had confirmed that he hadn’t killed that guy...but had he killed anyone or no one at all and everything was imagined...had he killed some homeless people but not killed them in his own home...I mean he was obviously very disturbed, whether it be real or not ...but so much of the movie was given over to the actual killings themselves and the brutality of them...to have left it hanging like that....and I also had no place of being able to get inside his head either, to see any emotion...and even with extremely disturbed emotion, we’re still often able to see it in characters and we need to, I think...that for me is an essential because it does give me the ‘watchable’ bits to counter the violence I can’t watch...but there was nothing...neither love or contempt for humans, they just weren’t human to him...is what it felt...he felt nothing, they were nothing...what was the point and it took very little to trigger him and sometimes nothing at all because it was all preplanned...other than to say this ‘perfectly ordered person in nice expensive suits is actually a monster...but we didn’t even know that for sure ....I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same or if I just wasn’t getting it...

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I think you have to have some characters in there that make you want to route for them. The whole film just felt soul less to me

[Ammi]

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...even with characters like Hannibal Lecter, there is something that you can attach to in the whole psychology of it...but there was nothing in American Psycho for me...

...I’m just looking at some on Netflix atm and I don’t know if anyone else has any thoughts...?..but Netflix have showing Falling Down, which I recall to be a good movie, The Green Mile, Seven Pounds, Panic Room.... American Gangster, I’m not sure if I’ve seen that....Limitless, Inception, Shutter Island...I think The Truman Show is showing on one of the networks, I’m not sure which one...

[Ammi]

...The Terminal...I love that movie, it’s such a guilty pleasure...

[Niamh.]

I actually only re-watched The Green Mile and The Truman Show recently, I was wanting to show my daughter some 90's classics

[Niamh.]

I'd watch any of those choices though, so whatever anyone else wants?

[Ammi]

...I’m pretty sure that Atonement is showing as well...

[Ammi]

...it’s not a classic but if anyone hasn’t watched it, The Fundamentals of Caring is a lovely movie and a lighter one...

[Niamh.]

I don't think I ever watched that actually, not usually in to those kind of period films but I would give it a go anyway, broaden my horizons

[Ammi]

...Atonement, you mean...?...I think it might be a good first time watch, movie...the other one is Falling Down, but I don’t recall that much about it, other than I enjoyed it...it might be especially relatable to now and restrictions and lockdowns etc and when people just ‘snap’....

[Niamh.]

Yeah I was talking about Atonement but would watch either, I saw falling down years ago but would do a rewatch

[Ammi]

...we’ll do Atonement next, then ...if everyone is ok with that..?..and also if everyone is able to access it...it’s on Netflix but I’m not sure where else, I can look online if anyone can’t watch...

[Niamh.]

Grand job

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...we’ll do Atonement next, then ...if everyone is ok with that..?..and also if everyone is able to access it...it’s on Netflix but I’m not sure where else, I can look online if anyone can’t watch...

I'll see if I can find it.

[Vanessa]

Panic Room is brilliant!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'll see if I can find it.

...it was coming up as being on YouTube, Vanessa...but I don’t think it’s freeview, ughhh....

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Panic Room is brilliant!

...yeah, it’s a long time since I watched it but it’s a thrilling watch. ...plus another Jodie Foster one I loved was Flightplan....

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...it was coming up as being on YouTube, Vanessa...but I don’t think it’s freeview, ughhh....



...yeah, it’s a long time since I watched it but it’s a thrilling watch. ...plus another Jodie Foster one I loved was Flightplan....

And The silence of the lambs. I love that movie!

[Bollo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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...apparently there were some scenes which were deleted that gave more insight into Joel’s relationship with Naomi because it would have changed how we saw him ...in that there could have been an overlap, as you say, Bollo...when he and Clementine first met and he appeared awkward/shy, the suggestion is that it could equally have been guilt, rather than shyness...I hadn’t actually picked up on that...(...I googled whether there was an overlap......so that was very perceptive of you...the unedited scene(s) might be viewable online, I’m not sure...

...Elijah Wood’s character, Patrick..?...was such a creep, taking her underwear when the erasing was being done and basically ‘stealing’ Joel’s memories..it was obviously all about Joel and Clementine but how many females had he done that with...?...and obviously Howard was such a creep as well, to feel that something like that and how vulnerable someone would be etc in that situation...would be abused in such a way...it’s just shuddering....

...yeah, I guess it would be interesting to think, would we go back to a relationship because of the good times...?...and I guess that would always vary, depending on the reasons for it ending and whether a different outcome could ever be possible...I need to think about that more.....

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Oh really thats interesting, i did wonder because right at the beginning he is pondering wether to go back Naomi because he says 'she's nice and she loved me'...and then near the end a couple of times him and Clementine have a conversation about wether he's married and I think he says he lives with someone ...so it would have been interesting to see how he got out of that because he seems so awkward/ shy and lonely like he hasn't had a partner for ages otherwise...but like you say maybe it's guilt..

Yes Howard was really creepy, i did not see that coming when Mary came on to him, that they had already been together, seems like both him and Patrick were taking advantage of the system, which i think is probably why Mary did what she did with the tapes... Mary needs to be with the Mark Gruffalo character...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...we’ll do Atonement next, then ...if everyone is ok with that..?..and also if everyone is able to access it...it’s on Netflix but I’m not sure where else, I can look online if anyone can’t watch...

Are you sure it's on Netflix, I can't find it there?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Are you sure it's on Netflix, I can't find it there?

...ughhh, I can’t find it now, I’ve looked at so many, I must have confused it, sorry...it’s on Amazon Prime but it’s a paid for one...The Help seems to be showing on Amazon for free...or Zodiac of Zombieland are both showing on Netflix...?....(..there’s a huge list of all Netflix movies showing, 58 pages...but when I start to go into some more well known ones, they’re not actually on there anymore...)...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...ughhh, I can’t find it now, I’ve looked at so many, I must have confused it, sorry...it’s on Amazon Prime but it’s a paid for one...The Help seems to be showing on Amazon for free...or Zodiac of Zombieland are both showing on Netflix...?....(..there’s a huge list of all Netflix movies showing, 58 pages...but when I start to go into some more well known ones, they’re not actually on there anymore...)...

maybe it was there but they took it off. Which one do you fancy? I don't mind

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

maybe it was there but they took it off. Which one do you fancy? I don't mind

...I honestly don’t mind, I think Zodiac is the only one I haven’t seen ...but it’s also less of a ‘lighter’ one so I’m happy with lighter as well...there are probably more on there but it’s not easy to search very quickly ...especially as Google ‘what’s showing’ doesn’t seem to be up to date...

[Ammi]

...or I can keep looking to find more choices..?...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I honestly don’t mind, I think Zodiac is the only one I haven’t seen ...but it’s also less of a ‘lighter’ one so I’m happy with lighter as well...there are probably more on there but it’s not easy to search very quickly ...especially as Google ‘what’s showing’ doesn’t seem to be up to date...

I think I might have seen Zodiac but I'm not sure, do you want to watch it? Or would you rather we found something lighter after American Psycho?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...or I can keep looking to find more choices..?...

I'll have a look as well