[Zizu]

Presumably the numbers of people getting their first and vital first jab will soon slow down considerably given we will soon have to start giving out millions of second jabs ?


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[Zizu]

I keep hearing radio adverts asking blokes to give Plasma but it’s not something I’ve heard mention in the daily briefings or in this thread !?!




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[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

what are the numbers for UK today?

I am doing them now

[arista]

Sunday 7/2/21

Today 373 Died

15,845 caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
29,326

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
3,505


112,465 Total UK deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

no vaccinations with AZ in South Africa, since it offers little or no protection against their covid strain

they had recently received 500.000 doses of AZ and now it won't be used then

[arista]

The UK amount of South African Variant
is now 147, according to the Government Health Minister
Edward Argar MP
on GMBHD itv

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no vaccinations with AZ in South Africa, since it offers little or no protection against their covid strain

they had recently received 500.000 doses of AZ and now it won't be used then

Thats just not true.
It does offer some protection


They are working on an Updated version of AstraZeneca
of course its a set back.

[Nicky91]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...accine-rollout

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...accine-rollout

Yes
they are changing to J&J USA vaccine
in South Africa

Scared off
of using the Astra one.

[arista]

[The University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg,
which conducted the trial of the
Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine,
said in a statement on Sunday that the
vaccine “provides minimal protection against
mild-moderate COVID-19 infection” from the variant,
which is dominant in South Africa.]


From Nicky's Link.

[arista]

Prisoner Gary Glitter has had his vaccine
as he is aged 76.

Ch5HD AM Live

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[The University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg,
which conducted the trial of the
Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine,
said in a statement on Sunday that the
vaccine “provides minimal protection against
mild-moderate COVID-19 infection” from the variant,
which is dominant in South Africa.]


From Nicky's Link.

Can't you get mild/moderate from any vaccine, there is no 100% guarantee

I feel there are other issues at play here particularly as AZ is being rolled out at cost, not enough profit for some of the other Pharmas?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can't you get mild/moderate from any vaccine, there is no 100% guarantee

I feel there are other issues at play here particularly as AZ is being rolled out at cost, not enough profit for some of the other Pharmas?

Yes that South Africa Study was small,
And The USA Vaccines do make more money.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Prisoner Gary Glitter has had his vaccine
as he is aged 67.

Ch5HD AM Live

waste of a vaccine dose to a disgusting paedo

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

waste of a vaccine dose to a disgusting paedo

The debate is about the Prison Officers
who have not had the vaccine.


He is in a Dorset Prison.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

no vaccinations with AZ in South Africa, since it offers little or no protection against their covid strain

they had recently received 500.000 doses of AZ and now it won't be used then

That’s just ridiculous if what we are being told is true ..

Those vaccines will apparently , at worst, protect against serious Covid plus death and I would happily settle for that !!


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can't you get mild/moderate from any vaccine, there is no 100% guarantee

I feel there are other issues at play here particularly as AZ is being rolled out at cost, not enough profit for some of the other Pharmas?

You've likely a fair point there Cherie.
Re profit margins.

To have a vaccine that is going to help prevent serious illness and likely death, is worth having in my view.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can't you get mild/moderate from any vaccine, there is no 100% guarantee

I feel there are other issues at play here particularly as AZ is being rolled out at cost, not enough profit for some of the other Pharmas?

No

Pfizer, Moderna have well over 90 or more % effectiveness, way more than AZ

[Vanessa]

Can't wait to get the vaccine tomorrow.
I think it's good, because it will stop us from getting seriously ill. In case we get the virus.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Prisoner Gary Glitter has had his vaccine
as he is aged 67.

Ch5HD AM Live

That's sad news.

[Nicky91]

Pfizer, Moderna first dose prevents you from landing on ICU, from even getting on a regular hospital bed either

AZ we don't know much about, other than the effectiveness percentage being far lower than other vaccines, and that is not very hopeful towards us to give that (with uncertainty) to the 65+ age group where we of course want more certainty of

+ AZ not good against SA mutation

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

The debate is about the Prison Officers
who have not had the vaccine.


He is in a Dorset Prison.

Of course he'd have to have it, as irritating as it may be to say so.

All the people in that prison, from the hierarchy to guards and all other individuals have to be protected too.
So all in prisons must have it too.

It's not a virus that will think, oh let's just infect the inmates.