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Originally Posted by Ammi
...I don’t want to think that there’ll be more but I think that there may be...I think that the virus/variants of the virus will move more quickly than the vaccine will...one of the things that I was thinking yesterday ...is that, although the vaccine roll out is going tremendously...it will surely have to slow down soon for the 2nd vaccinations to be prioritised...which the 12 weeks will dictate, they have to be kept within that from the first vaccination...I mean, if it’s rolling out at full capacity now, then that wouldn’t allow for the 2nd ones, while still keeping a similar pace for the first ones...and there are still so many of those to go as well...so even though the more vulnerable will have been vaccinated...does that still not leave the virus to remain active and it’s going to be a constant all year round and every days etc of vaccinations to keep on preserving as much life as possible ...and for the foreseeable, that will mean lockdowns as well at times...maybe more local ones, though...but there may have to be national ones also as the local ones have still led to this National one happening...
...one thing that I find annoying is the predictions/timelines of things ‘being back to normal’ when we still have no idea of what our ‘normal’ is going to be...
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I think its fact at this stage that the virus will mutate quicker than the vaccine could keep up really. Luckily most mutations are not anything to worry about, there will be literally thousands, maybe more covid mutations by this point I think. I was reading this earlier as was sent it..but its kinda relevant here so
https://www.breakthroughs.com/advanc...-means-vaccine
It sounds kinda like..unless this happens (which sounds fascinating to me and almost identical to how making a baby works?! Rather than how you would think of a virus) we should be quite fine for now really. A massive anamoly aside. Mutations sound scary (I was very worked up about this at one stage, how it happens, why the media were ignoring the mutations pretty much, and then only focussing on them after the vaccine was available and stuff, until somene who works in the field explained it all...really really stressed I was), and the press is now cashing in on that too it seems, but generaly speaking it seems most are not an issue at all..even the ones some papers have touted as the second coming of the plague basically..
^Coronaviruses do not have segmented genomes and cannot reassort. Instead, the coronavirus genome is made of a single, very long piece of RNA. However, when two coronaviruses infect the same cell, they can recombine, which is different than reassortment. In recombination, a new single RNA genome is stitched together from pieces of the two “parental” coronaviruses genomes. It’s not as efficient as reassortment, but scientists believe that coronaviruses have recombined in nature.^
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The vaccine rollout seems really weird to me. Like yeah all the backpats off getting half the country done, but to me, the focus should really have been on 'the vulnerable' and making sure they got both doses, before moving onto other lower risk groups tbh. Seems very strange, to be basically leaving those higher risk in a bit of a limbo, while we vaccinate those who..really dont eve seem to need the vaccination (though IF data says it does stop spread, obviously that changes a bit. Am assuming the 'lower risk of bad illness' thats being used right now!)
Ontop of this I cannot for the life of me understand the awkwardness about vacinating teachers before the schools flood? Not sure if this is universal but I have a few friends who are teachers/TAs and are quite yung s have yet t be called fr vaccine, but they have reached out to ask, and have been told that no, no priority list for teachers. Given how they were basically thrown to the wolves last opening, I find this really bad? Like, they were potentially as badly off as some NHS staff, and certainly much worse off than supermarket workers, bus drivers, other keyworkers...like, I think 'covid secure' is largely a pile of bollocks in honesty, BUT, there was no atempt to secure schools, bar 'oh clean hands more'. Kids who wanted to wear masks were openly told they couldn't..and so on. Just seemed weird behaviour at the time, and still can't make sense of it. Friends were confused too, and have basically now decided there is a conspiracy to kill off teachers for some odd reason they cannot explain, given the lack of care about their health from government, mps, nhs, everyone, seems no outcry about this and its just basically 'oh well they should get on with it, kids are low rsk', Like, kids seem almost immune to the very nasty parts of this virus and I am grateful for that, but the kids being safer, does not mean the teachers dont need potection too? Unless we have conclusive evidence that asymptomatic people, or children, or both don't spread it? Which I don't think we have but could have missed(think last I read it looked like no symptoms meant less likely to spread, but not impossible? Cannot imagine its changed much frm there really). I think most are not serious, but really, cannot blame them for jumping to that conclusion even if they were!
Will lockdown 3.0 be it?
I also hope the majority of people will take the vaccine in order to protect themselves and others but if they don't there really isn't much we can do about it
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