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Old 05-03-2021, 12:52 PM #1326
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Well gavs is done now..we shall see if the side effects do affect him badly. Hopefully not, but it seems almost 50/50 (among people I know anyway) as to whether you get nowt but a sore arm, or flu like symptoms for a few days.
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first Covax vaccine doses have arrived in Moldova, according to president Sandu

https://news.yahoo.com/moldova-first...081558028.html

14.400 doses in total


earlier on they received a donation of 200.000 vaccine doses from neighbours Romania
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Well gavs is done now..we shall see if the side effects do affect him badly. Hopefully not, but it seems almost 50/50 (among people I know anyway) as to whether you get nowt but a sore arm, or flu like symptoms for a few days.
my biggest concern was for the first 15 mins in case i got an allergic reaction. Is my breathing different, am i hot and sweaty, is my throat tightening ... which of course makes you feel all those things
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I'll take some paracetamol for my second dose.
And hopefully I won't be sick too much
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my biggest concern was for the first 15 mins in case i got an allergic reaction. Is my breathing different, am i hot and sweaty, is my throat tightening ... which of course makes you feel all those things


Funnily enough , me and the wife got jabbed at the same time and sat near each other in the waiting area..

I too was dreading a bad reaction given my propensity for feinting and reacting badly to fumes , strong tastes , antibiotics etc

Anyways I was sat there monitoring all my bodily functions .. including heart rate on my Apple Watch ... very soon I noticed a stinging, sore pain in my jabbed arm and started to breathe faster .... mild panic ...

After a few minutes I looked to my wife and said “my arm is stinging and starting to hurt !”

She said casually... “ same here “


To which I replied “ I wish you’d said something five minutes ago !”


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People vaccinated up to and including 4 March 2021

First dose: 21,358,815


Second dose: 1,034,068

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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40.5% first doses, and 2% of second doses administered now
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40.5% first doses, and 2% of second doses administered now


Presumably that’s % of adults not total population?!


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Doesn’t that go without saying? Only over 18s are eligible for it?
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Well gavins 'full of flu' today. My daughter asked if the doctors gave him covid I was like no, they stopped him getting it and she seems unable to see the logic in getting as ill as he is, to stop him getting ill. Haha. Am finding it harder to argue with her tbh but will get it into her, before she goes back to school...as otherwise will be getting calls about her telling kids false stuff
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Have actually made him take high dose of paracetamol like, as his fever was quite concerning :S

Told him, if he follows this like most others we know, he will be fine by tomorrow dinner time.
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And yeah, oxford one. Or so it says on his little vaccination card thing.
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Well gavins 'full of flu' today. My daughter asked if the doctors gave him covid I was like no, they stopped him getting it and she seems unable to see the logic in getting as ill as he is, to stop him getting ill. Haha. Am finding it harder to argue with her tbh but will get it into her, before she goes back to school...as otherwise will be getting calls about her telling kids false stuff
i'm feeling much better today, not 100% but i felt really **** yesterday. Now my arm is sore, so that took longer to appear
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Yes Vicky
its around a day or two
of that in some cases.

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i'm feeling much better today, not 100% but i felt really **** yesterday. Now my arm is sore, so that took longer to appear


I had a few days of random pains .. mainly joint ones .. then a stomach upset one afternoon..

Guess we’ll never know if they’re all related to the first Pfizer jab ..

I’m seeing a lot of reports saying the effects are worse if you’ve already had Covid and they can be considerably worse after the second jab


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I had a few days of random pains .. mainly joint ones .. then a stomach upset one afternoon..

Guess we’ll never know if they’re all related to the first Pfizer jab ..

I’m seeing a lot of reports saying the effects are worse if you’ve already had Covid and they can be considerably worse after the second jab


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yes, i think its related to immune response. So if you have immune response, you are going to feel more crap as your body generates anti bodies to fight it. I don't think it necessarily gets worse on the 2nd jab, just everyone gets to the same level of feeling crap, which is actually a good thing
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yes, i think its related to immune response. So if you have immune response, you are going to feel more crap as your body generates anti bodies to fight it. I don't think it necessarily gets worse on the 2nd jab, just everyone gets to the same level of feeling crap, which is actually a good thing




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Well gavins 'full of flu' today. My daughter asked if the doctors gave him covid I was like no, they stopped him getting it and she seems unable to see the logic in getting as ill as he is, to stop him getting ill. Haha. Am finding it harder to argue with her tbh but will get it into her, before she goes back to school...as otherwise will be getting calls about her telling kids false stuff

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Doesn’t that go without saying? Only over 18s are eligible for it?


Well the way Governments have always manipulated statistics...

Although it would look better for them if they just mean adults so yes you’re probably correct.


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i'm feeling much better today, not 100% but i felt really **** yesterday. Now my arm is sore, so that took longer to appear
His arm was hurting about 2 hours afterwards, but thats expected with vaccines really

Now he says it feels totally dead.

Hes shivering like hell though hes burning up with a fan on him :S

Says it feels exactly like when he actually had covid. Just wthout the lack of taste and smell.

Genuinely thinking I might hold off when offered, and instead pay privately so I can chose the pfizer one, as near all I know who have been ill, its been the astrazeneca.

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I had a few days of random pains .. mainly joint ones .. then a stomach upset one afternoon..

Guess we’ll never know if they’re all related to the first Pfizer jab ..

I’m seeing a lot of reports saying the effects are worse if you’ve already had Covid and they can be considerably worse after the second jab


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Ah, the pfizer one made you ill? Might be both then

Makes sense its the immune response though.
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Also, thinking on it, those who have been ill with it, most were confirmed at some stage to have caught covid over the past year or so. Well, most of those who I speak to enough to know that anyway. Small sample, tbf!

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Also, thinking on it, those who have been ill with it, most were confirmed at some stage to have caught covid over the past year or so. Well, most of those who I speak to enough to know that anyway. Small sample, tbf!
Makes sense really, you have a stronger immune response if you already have antibodies and that's what makes you feel ill. Also why people are hit harder by the second dose than the first.
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My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid
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My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid
The issue I think is if vaccinations are going to have to be repeated. As a one off is one thing, but its unrealistic to expect people to willingly experience those sorts of side effects every year.
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