[GoldHeart]

Are people forgetting that parents out there have brought up some of the most sickest twisted criminals out there . When it comes to light their heinous crimes how many would defend them? . If anything they'd be in shock and disgusted.

I'm generalising of course as everyone is different , but people have disowned family members over less so yeah .

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Very dismissive response.

Bye.

You just don't like the answer.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Ignore it and get the peado in the family put behind bars so they can't hurt anymore innocent kids.

You'd want your son put behind bars before he's been found guilty in a court of law?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

If your beloved son was accused of rape, and he told you he was innocent, what would you do? Can you answer a direct question without twisting?

Can you respond to one of my posts without incompetently trying to throw a term I used back at me, and failing in the process?

You asked me a question, I answered it but it wasn't the answer you wanted so you keep trying to move the goalposts by asking leading questions to try and change my stance, but it will not change. I would disown a child rapist if I believed they were guilty of the crime and I think anyone who wouldn't is a POS shielding a predator.

The royal family are ***** for protect Andrew in face of everything, it's not something to be admired or defended. They are protecting a predator.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

You just don't like the answer.

I didnt..

The question was about harry but you answered it as though I asked it about andrew..

[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Are people forgetting that parents out their have brought up some of the most sickest twisted criminals out there . When it come to light their heinous crimes how many would defend them? . If anything they'd be in shock and disgusted.

I'm generalising of course as everyone is different , but people have disowned family members over less so yeah .

Yes, I can see that if they have actually had a trial and been found guilty.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You still ain't addressed what you would do if your dad was on his deathbed and your son was bringing unnecessary further stress to the whole family.

You instantly said what you would do with andrew..a man merely accused of things..

You said you would dob him in..dob him in on the word of others...those others you say that thier words or thoughts dont matter if harry is ****ting on prince Phillips parade.


So what would you do with harry if he was your son and your dad was dying at the same time he was taking a swipe at you.

I gave you an answer, and you keep ignoring it because it's not the answer you want.

I wouldn't give a ****, I'd have bigger things on my mind than a ****ing interview if my parent was dying.

It continues to be disturbing that you find an interview to be as egregious an offence as raping a child.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, I can see that if they have actually had a trial and been found guilty.

Like I said people have disowned their own kids over far less , so why does it surprise you that not every parent would protect & defend a predator ?? .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm not comparing...


So you dont need to either

I'm discussing one side of the topic..I'm not one for child raping discussions.

No matter how many times you bring it up..I wont be drawn into that seedy world.

How can you say drawn in though

[joeysteele]

Speaking for myself only and I haven't been asked I admit.
My Parents, were I implicated in a crime or could assist with getting the facts of one.
Would not support me being silent.

If I'd also really done wrong, I was brought up to believe if you've done wrong, own up to it.
Which they'd have also pushed me to do.

Yes, they'd likely still have been there for me but through it, NOT to avoid it.

I have to say too, who is on their deathbed?
Apparently Prince Philip is improving, is likely to be back home In a week or so.
So the deathbed scenario doesn't apply.

Again however, people who feel the need strongly to say or reveal something, should be able to do so, in my view anyway.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm not comparing...


So you dont need to either

I'm discussing one side of the topic..I'm not one for child raping discussions.

No matter how many times you bring it up..I wont be drawn into that seedy world.

Except you have made comparisons multiple times.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

You are dodging the question, all your guff doesn't hide that. But what you have said will suffice - You would disown your own son, even if they told you they were innocent, and without any current actual, concrete evidence, because you automatically would assume they were guilty.
Wow, wow, wow. Okay.

That's not what Dezzy said but go off I guess

[parmnion]

My son is guilty of the most heinous of crimes cause nosey joyce said so..

I'm the type of father that allows my sons to bring shame on my family as my father lies on his deathbed...cause
I dont give a **** what other people think...

Apart from nosey joyce.

Her word is gospel.

[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Like I said people have disowned their own kids over far less , so why does it surprise you that not every parent would protect & defend a predator ?? .

But why wouldn't the parent defend the son if he denied he was a predator and there was no actual current evidence to prove it?

[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's not what Dezzy said but go off I guess

Correct me then....

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

But why wouldn't the parent defend the son if he denied he was a predator and there was no actual current evidence to prove it?

But we're talking about WITH evidence ,and they'll be a number of other suspicious encounters too. Being best friends with a notorious rapist isn't going to help your case either is it now.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

if they can defend an abusive money-mad passive-aggressive bully surely that isnt a surprise?

Even if the person I was defending was all those things at least they aren't a bloody peadophile.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No, you just don't like the answer I'm giving so you're disregarding what I've said to shove your words down my throat and judge me for a conclusion you've invented all on your own.

Imagine judging me for disowning someone I suspected of being a child predator in order to defend an actual child predator so that a hatred of Meghan Markle seems less irrational than it is.

Twisty twisty - and now accusing me of defending a predator, your transparency is laughable. I have never said Andrew isn't guilty, how would I know if he was or wasn't? I have said he hasn't been convicted.

Top tip Dezzy - NEVER aspire to become a judge.....

Again - Why would you suspect your son of being a predator if you weren't even there in the country where he was accused and he told he he was innocent?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Even if the person I was defending was all those things at least they aren't a bloody peadophile.

I know which one I'd rather defend

#team Harry & Meghan

[jet]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I can't believe people are defending a nonce. Only on tibb!

Nobody is defending Andrew. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial in a court of law no matter who they are. If he is found guilty, I'll call him worse than a nonce.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Twisty twisty - and now accusing me of defending a predator, your transparency is laughable. I have never said Andrew isn't guilty, how would I know if he was or wasn't? I have said he hasn't been convicted.

Top tip Dezzy - NEVER aspire to become a judge.....

Again - Why would you suspect your son of being a predator if you weren't even there in the country where he was accused and he told he he was innocent?

I'm not twisting anything, but once again you have failed to take my words and use them in the right context.

I don't want to be a judge, but I'd say the same to you as well.

Do you not have much experience with people? I can often tell when someone is lying to me, if I had a son who was accused of rape, and I couldn't believe him to be innocent, then I would turn my back on him. I don't forgive or tolerate rape. I couldn't love someone who would do that to another person, nevermind a child.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

Nobody is defending Andrew. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial in a court of law no matter who they are. If he is found guilty, I'll call him worse than a nonce.

Jet why do you ignore the fact Andrew was best pals with a notorious rapist, guilty or innocent the person doesn't have a leg to stand on . Be honest now .

[jet]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But we're talking about WITH evidence ,and they'll be a number of other suspicious encounters too. Being best friends with a notorious rapist isn't going to help your case either is it now.

Still doesn't prove conclusive guilt. If you know of evidence and other suspicious encounters, report it to the USA police. They will act on it.

[Tom4784]

I believe his victim, I stand with her.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by jet

Still doesn't prove conclusive guilt. If you know of evidence and other suspicious encounters, report it to the USA police. They will act on it.

He stayed in contact with him ,a normal person would of cut ties immediately. But as the saying goes predators usually flock together .