[arista]

Meghans Dad GMBHD itv clip
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[arista]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I can say what I want.

The press relentlessly hounded Caroline, they were well aware she was struggling mentally with her friends, family and even her boyfriend asking them to stop. They went past reporting on the assault and made jokes out of the situation.

She killed herself because of the relentless media coverage and you can't change my mind.

Yes he was ignored.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

The press did hound her to her death.

That is incorrect and just a false narrative. Speed, drugs, drink and no seatbelt killed her, a fact that was established by a court.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That is incorrect and just a false narrative. Speed, drugs, drink and no seatbelt killed her, a fact that was established by a court.

You’re so quick to act like you know what you’re talking about it’s embarrassing; try reading first, they’re talking about Caroline flack

[arista]

[ITV rebounds from Ł205m Covid slump
as 11m watch Harry and Meghan
Broadcaster, which won UK rights to
Oprah Winfrey interview,
returns to growth after fall in profits last year]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...erview-profits

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes this has been pointed out on TV this morning so nothing to do with his race just the royal rules, so that is a bit misleading by some of the media.

Harry's children will automatically get back titles when Prince Charles become king.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[ITV rebounds from Ł205m Covid slump
as 11m watch Harry and Meghan
Broadcaster, which won UK rights to
Oprah Winfrey interview,
returns to growth after fall in profits last year]

https://www.theguardian.com/business...erview-profits

not Harry and Megs contributing to the racist UK economy

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Smithy

You’re so quick to act like you know what you’re talking about it’s embarrassing; try reading first, they’re talking about Caroline flack

She (Flack) killed herself before her trial for domestic abuse where she attacked her boyfriend in the dead of night with a lamp. The CPS pushed for the trial to go aherad based on the evidence set forth before them

She had a great relationship with the press and regularly attended events held by the tabloids and her management used the tabloids to gain promo for whatever tv she was doing to raise her profile.

[jet]

Piers Morgan full article:

Sickening.
Shameful.
Self-pitying.
Salacious.
Scandalous.
Sanctimonious.
Spectacularly self-serving.
Those were just my initial thoughts after ten minutes of the Oprah whine-athon with Meghan and Harry, and while restricting myself to only using words beginning with the letter 's'.

By the time I'd finished the whole two-hour orgy of pious, self-indulgent, score-settling twaddle, the steam was erupting out of my ears like an exploding geyser, and my lexicon of rageful epithets extended to the full range of the alphabet.
Never have I watched a more repulsively disingenuous interview.
Nor one more horrendously hypocritical or contradictory.
Here we had the Duke and Duchess of Privacy flinging out the filthy family laundry for the delectation of tens of millions of people all over the world, whilst simultaneously bleating about press intrusion.

They moaned about the terrible pain of their royal titles but were also outraged their son Archie wasn't allowed to be a Prince.
They told of their constant trauma from nasty newspaper stories, but repeatedly insisted they never read any of them.
They claimed they were forced to sign gazillion-dollar deals with Netflix and Spotify because Prince Charles cut off their allowance, despite Harry inheriting millions from his late mother Princess Diana and having his entire life bankrolled by the Royal Family.
And so, it went nauseatingly on.

In the middle of a pandemic that has already taken over 2.5 million lives, a staggeringly rich and entitled couple living in a $14 million sun-kissed California mansion wanted us all to know that THEY are the real victims around here.
Meghan even compared her former life living in a palace to the crippling freedom-robbing existence of coronavirus lockdowns, which must have sounded so empathetic to large families living at the top of tower blocks with three kids they're trying to home-school and no job to pay for food.
'I couldn't even meet my friends for lunch!' wailed the Duchess of Delusion, who flew to New York for a $500,000 baby shower with all her new-found celebrity pals, then flew back to London like any good eco-warrior on George Clooney's carbon footprint guzzling private jet.
But amid all the relatively trivial gossipy stuff emerged some incredibly damaging bombshells deliberately detonated to do maximum damage to the British Royal Family and the Monarchy.

First, Meghan claimed to have been left suicidal by the pressure of being a Princess and had her requests for help rejected by the cold, heartless Palace.
We weren't told who did the rejecting, or why she couldn't seek her own therapy or treatment if that's what she felt she needed. After all, her husband has spent years talking about mental health and has close connections with all the major mental health charities.
Instead, we're left to believe the Palace spurned a pregnant suicidal woman in her hour of desperate need.
But that wasn't even the most explosive revelation.
No, that came when Meghan told Oprah that a member of the Royal Family had queried what colour her baby would be during a conversation with Harry.
In fact, she said there were several conversations, whereas he said there was only one.
But neither of them would name the offending Royal.
Harry said he would never reveal the name.
So, we're now left to view all the Royals as racists.
Nor were we given any details of exactly what was said, or in what context it was said.
Would an older senior Royal innocently asking Harry what skin colour his baby might have, given that Meghan's mother is black and her father white, constitute racism?
It would if there was any derogatory tone to the question, or any suggestion that it would be a problem how dark the child's skin was. But we don't know the answers to those vital questions, because having let off the racism bomb, the Sussexes won't say any more.
I find that cowardly.
And the racism charge got worse.

Meghan followed up by asserting, without providing any evidence, that the Royal Family decided to change the rules specifically to prevent her son Archie from being a Prince, because of his skin colour.
Again, no name was given for the appalling racist at the Palace responsible for such a disgusting discriminatory decision.
But, as Meghan and Harry both know, the only person who has final say over titles is the Queen.
So, in making this astonishing unproven claim, they're effectively branding Her Majesty, Harry's grandmother, a racist.
It's hard to think of a more disgraceful slur to make against a woman who has devoted her whole life to the service of her country and the Commonwealth.
The Queen is not a racist and has never been a racist.
To even suggest that she might be is disgusting.

But to do so at a time when her 99-year-old husband Prince Philip has spent the past few weeks lying seriously ill in hospital is worse than that, it's contemptible.
Nothing that Meghan Markle said in this interview surprised me.
From the moment Oprah announced her scoop, I predicted to anyone who asked me that Meghan would aggressively play the mental health and race cards to deflect from any criticism of herself and her own behaviour or accountability.
I also cynically suspect it's the reason why she chose to do such a sensational interview when she's five months pregnant. Why would any woman do that after suffering a miscarriage last year, knowing the obvious controversy, media attention, and stress it would provoke? The answer, I fear, is that she thought the pregnancy would afford her another layer of protection against the inevitable furore and criticism that would result from her trashing the Royal Family.

Having had personal experience, on a very small scale, of Meghan Markle's ruthlessness when dispensing of anyone in her life that's ceased to be of use to her, it was no great shock to see her lighting a gigantic bonfire that will surely cause irreparable damage to her husband's family.
After all, she's torched all her own family, along with her ex-husband and most of her old friends.
This was the acting performance of her life, with every word, every facial expression carefully planned and choreographed.
In fact, it it's not late, someone should nominate it for the Oscars.
I mean, this is a woman who was photographed on the railings of Buckingham Palace as a starry-eyed teenager but now wants us to believe she knew nothing about the Royals and never once Googled her handsome Prince when they met.
Given these are both obvious lies, why should we believe anything that comes out of her mouth?
'Nobody told me how to curtsy or sing the British national anthem,' wailed a 39-year-old woman, married to someone who can probably help with both.

But make no mistake, this interview will be a triumph for Meghan in America. Her narrative of a poor, vulnerable, unsuspecting bi-racial woman thrown to the wolves by a white, racist Royal Family and racist British press is already being heralded as 'courageous' and 'brave' and 'iconic' across the United States.
She's got exactly what she wants: her homeland feeling sorry for her.
And woe betide anyone who criticises Meghan, for you will be instantly lambasted as a 'racist bully' towards a woman who stands accused of subjecting her own young female Palace staff to horrendous bullying.
But what about Prince Harry, and his own homeland of Great Britain?

How on earth could he allow his wife to take down his family like this on TV, and attack and belittle the very institution held so dear by his grandmother?
He even let her chuck his brother William's wife Kate - a woman who has never once said a bad word about Meghan in public - under the bus by saying she made her cry in a row over kids' wedding dresses.
That 'space', which is how Harry framed his current fractured relationship with William, will now be the size of 1000 Grand Canyons.
And then Harry gleefully joined in the Sopranos-style whacking too, revealing incredibly intimate secrets about his father Prince Charles of the type that he would scream in fury over if they'd been revealed by the tabloid press.
He claimed Charles stopped taking his calls last January after he and Meghan quit their country and the Royal Family and cut off his massive financial allowance too. And Harry's still furious with his Dad, apparently, for letting him down.

Yet, what has Charles done wrong exactly, other than try to deal with his headstrong younger son's constant self-pitying hunger for drama?
He bankrolled Harry and Meghan for years, and even stepped in to walk her down the aisle when her father pulled out after suffering a heart attack and was disowned by his daughter (where were Oprah 'nothing's off limits' Winfrey questions about that?) - yet they now pay him back with this open back-stabbing treachery.
Harry disloyally says Charles and William are 'trapped' in the institution of the Monarchy because they are the heirs to the throne.
'They don't get to leave, and I have huge compassion for that,' he claimed.
Oh please.
He and Meghan bang on endlessly about their compassion yet show the complete opposite to their own families.

If Charles or William wanted to leave, they could do exactly what Harry's done, and what Edward VIII did when he abdicated the throne.
Any royal can 'leave'.
But only Edward and Harry actually did it, both coincidentally after falling in love with American women.
The only difference is that Edward and Wallis Simpson never spoke badly in public about the Royal Family or trashed the Monarchy.
Within hours of the Oprah interview airing, the hashtag #AbolishTheMonarchy was trending on Twitter.
That's the effect that Meghan and Harry's accusations have had with their shockingly poisonous allegations.
Ms Markle won't care about the damage she's done to an institution she clearly reviles.
But Harry should.
The fact he's so willingly taken part in such a despicable public attack on the Royal Family – HIS family - and the Monarchy is utterly shameful.
And to have caused so much extra hurt to his 94-year-old grandmother the Queen at a time when her husband lies seriously ill in hospital, is just appalling.
When it comes to mental health and having a heart, it appears Meghan and Harry only care about themselves.

[LeatherTrumpet]

brilliant article

"The fact he's so willingly taken part in such a despicable public attack on the Royal Family – HIS family - and the Monarchy is utterly shameful.
And to have caused so much extra hurt to his 94-year-old grandmother the Queen at a time when her husband lies seriously ill in hospital, is just appalling.
When it comes to mental health and having a heart, it appears Meghan and Harry only care about themselves."

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Harry's children will automatically get back titles when Prince Charles become king.

Imagine being such a useless waste of space becoming our King and that dreadful woman being Queen !!


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

brilliant article

"The fact he's so willingly taken part in such a despicable public attack on the Royal Family – HIS family - and the Monarchy is utterly shameful.
And to have caused so much extra hurt to his 94-year-old grandmother the Queen at a time when her husband lies seriously ill in hospital, is just appalling.
When it comes to mental health and having a heart, it appears Meghan and Harry only care about themselves."

Do you really care that much for ol’ Phil ??


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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Do you really care that much for ol’ Phil ??


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my mother just spent 8 weeks in hospital so i am aware how stressful for the family it is in a Pandemic

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

my mother just spent 8 weeks in hospital so i am aware how stressful for the family it is in a Pandemic

I’m sorry to hear about your mother but I’d expect more compassion and empathy from your side considering Harry’s grandfather is also in hospital.

[arista]

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[Vanessa]

I haven't seen the interview yet, only bits and pieces.
Will have a look later.

[arista]

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Imagine being such a useless waste of space becoming our King and that dreadful woman being Queen !!


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Camilla won't be queen.
At least not in my eyes.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I haven't seen the interview yet, only bits and pieces.
Will have a look later.

Yes I watched it Fast forwarding Ads

When the Piano music comes on
that's just before each add
Not a Full 2 Hours

1 Hour 45mins
Of course in USA ads are more that we have.



It needed to be Live
instead, loads more is coming out afterwards
The 15mins or more
to come out in little edits.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Camilla won't be queen.
At least not in my eyes.

I couldn't see the public standing for that.

I don't think the public actually want Prince Charles as King anyway.

They'd rather he stepped aside and handed it to Prince William.

Of course we don't elect a King or Queen.
However no way can I see Camilla being titled Queen.
She'll get some other title likely.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

11m is great considering not many people watch tv anymore

It's not that good when 5.5million people are watching cause they hate you.

[arista]

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

That is incorrect and just a false narrative. Speed, drugs, drink and no seatbelt killed her, a fact that was established by a court.

Imagine if you read posts before replying and embarrassing yourself like this

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I couldn't see the public standing for that.

I don't think the public actually want Prince Charles as King anyway.

They'd rather he stepped aside and handed it to Prince William.

Of course we don't elect a King or Queen.
However no way can I see Camilla being titled Queen.
She'll get some other title likely.

Yes. Prince William would make a great king.