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Funny thing is all these people whining about Meghan ‘lying’ are now saying Harry should have not told her, by that he would be lying to her
Truly baffling
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Funny thing is all these people whining about Meghan ‘lying’ are now saying Harry should have not told her, by that he would be lying to her
All these people?

Where are the damn mods..**** sake.

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Funny thing is all these people whining about Meghan ‘lying’ are now saying Harry should have not told her, by that he would be lying to her
|Not mentioning a conversation you had isnt lying to someone??

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Funny thing is all these people whining about Meghan ‘lying’ are now saying Harry should have not told her, by that he would be lying to her


Well I wouldn’t expect you to understand the concept of keeping something from your wife that may hurt her....
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|Not mentioning a conversation you had isnt lying to someone??

They're a couple they love eachother,why wouldn't he tell her?. If he kept it from her then that would be keeping secrets .
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They're a couple they love eachother,why wouldn't he tell her?. If he kept it from her then that would be keeping secrets .
But she was suicidal, hes either thick or sinister if it's TRUE.
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They're a couple they love eachother,why wouldn't he tell her?. If he kept it from her then that would be keeping secrets .
its not a secret and couples do not share every convo they have each day

that would be ridiculous
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But she was suicidal, hes either thick or sinister if it's TRUE.
or incredibly cruel
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or incredibly cruel
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Twist it all you want
It is pretty cruel though..let's bring it down to street level..you got you're pregnant mrs is inside sobbing her heart out as your outside sorting out the family... and one of them says that ..

Be honest..you ain't gonna walk back in and tell her when shes in such a fragile state.

I must add though, that in my scenario the family have come round to see if shes ok and if they need help but the future dad has spurned them all and that's why they are outside arguing instead of being allowed in.

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Maybe then...this mature man that has seen the light since being with a mixed race woman...he could have educated the culprit who made the claimed Racist comment....instead of calling them out as racists to the whole world. His family supported him for the 2 occasions and had to make public apologies when he was younger....
Not sure if you watched the full interview but he mentioned trying to educate his families a few times and comes across as someone who still has hope for the monarchy. His whole reason for not saying who was concerned about the babies skin was to not throw anybody under the bus.
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Not sure if you watched the full interview but he mentioned trying to educate his families a few times and comes across as someone who still has hope for the monarchy. His whole reason for not saying who was concerned about the babies skin was to not throw anybody under the bus.
Yeah I got the impression both Harry & Meghan don't want to bad mouth any of the royal family, it's the institution mainly they had issues with.

However you can still see they feel let down by members of the family. Even the lies the media printed about Meghan making Kate cry, just made Meghan give her side of what actually happened . And she says Kate apologised to her ,so you can tell Meghan didn't want to dwell on it .
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If you ever heard what goes on in the army you'd probably be traumatised , what Harry said is tame compared to what others would be saying and doing ie abuse,racism, homophobia, sexism .

I never said it was ok ,but let's be realistic here . And Harry has opened up and said he's been educated since being with Meghan.

Why is it fine to call out Harry but Philip gets let off for his offensive stuff over the years?? Old age ? . That sounds like double standards to me .

And we'll never know what was fully said in that uncomfortable awkward conversation Harry had ,with the person re Archie's skin colour. But either way it suggests ignorance . Context or not .
No one is letting Phillip off, we all know he's said some naff things ,you can bet in life we ALL have, but this isn't about him, its about deeming the royal family racist, I dont think they are,I just think someone has made an off the cuff remark not realising it was offensive,but none of us can say for sure we we not privvy to that conversation, until we know for sure its not good to condemn anyone
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Yeah I got the impression both Harry & Meghan don't want to bad mouth any of the royal family, it's the institution mainly they had issues with.

However you can still see they feel let down by members of the family. Even the lies the media printed about Meghan making Kate cry, just made Meghan give her side of what actually happened . And she says Kate apologised to her ,so you can tell Meghan didn't want to dwell on it .
Yeah, to me the interview never came across as them dragging the royal family idk why it’s been taken that way
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Yeah I got the impression both Harry & Meghan don't want to bad mouth any of the royal family, it's the institution mainly they had issues with.

However you can still see they feel let down by members of the family. Even the lies the media printed about Meghan making Kate cry, just made Meghan give her side of what actually happened . And she says Kate apologised to her ,so you can tell Meghan didn't want to dwell on it .
Camilla Tominey, royal reporter said on TV this morning Meghan DID make Kate cry. Either Meghan was lying or they were BOTH made to cry by each other. Meghan didn't mention that though.
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Yeah, to me the interview never came across as them dragging the royal family idk why it’s been taken that way
Yeah I guess the Palace put out a statement for the hell of it
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Not sure if you watched the full interview but he mentioned trying to educate his families a few times and comes across as someone who still has hope for the monarchy. His whole reason for not saying who was concerned about the babies skin was to not throw anybody under the bus.
Instead he is throwing suspicion on all the senior royals except the Queen and Philip and all except one will be innocent. Very good of him.
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Instead he is throwing suspicion on all the senior royals except the Queen and Philip and all except one will be innocent. Very good of him.
I mean I would’ve rather he just said who it was too, but I do believe he was trying to protect the person who said it.
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I mean I would’ve rather he just said who it was too, but I do believe he was trying to protect the person who said it.
By implicating every one else?

Er no

It was a devious tactical move

And not by him...
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I mean I would’ve rather he just said who it was too, but I do believe he was trying to protect the person who said it.
Then he shouldn't have said anything, because now none of them are protected as people are saying 'I wonder is it him, or her'?
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Then he shouldn't have said anything, because now none of them are protected as people are saying 'I wonder is it him, or her'?
Some very influential and important people as well..


You could have called treason in days gone by.
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They're a couple they love eachother,why wouldn't he tell her?. If he kept it from her then that would be keeping secrets .


Well I love my husband but a few years ago someone said something that I didn’t want him to hear because it wasn’t a good time for him....she didn’t tell him and I never told him what she was about to tell him...that’s called looking out for someone you love and not giving them unnecessary angst...
...that’s my kind of love for someone. However if you think love is not giving a **** about causing your partner unnecessary trauma...then good for you.
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Well I love my husband but a few years ago someone said something that I didn’t want him to hear because it wasn’t a good time for him....she didn’t tell him and I never told him what she was about to tell him...that’s called looking out for someone you love and not giving them unnecessary angst...
...that’s my kind of love for someone. However if you think love is not giving a **** about causing your partner unnecessary trauma...then good for you.
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