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I've heard it's a vast improvement on Whedon's version but four hours is a big timesink. I dunno if I have the energy to watch it.
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I’m going to watch it in parts.
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I've heard it's a vast improvement on Whedon's version but four hours is a big timesink. I dunno if I have the energy to watch it.
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I’m going to watch it in parts.
I'm more of a reader than a watcher so a lot of the time I get bored of a normal movie and watch it in chunks and the Snyder Cut was going to be a miniseries, so one may as well watch it an hour at a time or so.
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I'm more of a reader than a watcher so a lot of the time I get bored of a normal movie and watch it in chunks and the Snyder Cut was going to be a miniseries, so one may as well watch it an hour at a time or so.
From what I've read, although they decided on keeping it as one long movie rather than "officially" dividing it up, it is still divided into distinct "chapters" (6 I think I read?) roughly the length of a TV show episode (40-45 mins) to give obvious "pause points" for people who don't want to or can't watch it all in one go.

I personally like long movies and can easily watch one all in one go... the issue for me is that it's VERY rare that I have 4 hours of uninterrupted free time to actually do that these days . Guess I could pretend to be sick one day when the kids are at school . So much harder to "pull a sickie" working from home though, you have to pretend to be properly half-dead or people still try to message you .
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Just finished it and I can't lie I thought it was awesome. It honestly didn't even feel over-long, although the first 3 parts basically fit in a load of content that could have been expanded into entire movies in themselves (e.g. there's practically an entire Cyborg origin movie scattered throughout the runtime).

But the one major thing that it has done - and it actually makes me feel sort of mad about WHedon's changes in this sense thinking back on it - is that it respects the others and isn't just a Superman fan-fest. Whedon turned Flash into a joke - he has moments of comic relief here but is NOT an incompetent rookie. Whedon (criminally) depowered WW and she absolutely kicks butt in this film, back to the power level she should be at in this timeframe (i.e. as strong as she was in BvS). Cyborg's abilities get a much bigger showcase, too. Basically the entire final sequence is epic and shows all of them as competent and powerful, and Supes is NOT used as a deus-ex-machina to swoop in. AND YET at the same time, Steppenwolf is a much more intimidating and convincing (and generally well fleshed out) villain, with clear goals and motivations.

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WW's intro action sequence is awesome, and she goes toe-to-toe quite competently with Steppenwolf MULTIPLE TIMES throughout the film, and WW and Aquaman together are basically shown as being a pretty even match for Steppenwolf (and could probably beat him, in other circumstances). I can't figure out why Whedon wouldn't want to showcase this version of WW.

Same goes for The Flash - the bumbling, incompetent Flash is - it seems - basically Whedon's creation? His powers were dampened significantly in the theatrical film and in the final battle he's relegated to "helping some civilians in a car". He plays a massive, pivotal role here! It's also made quite clear that he's significantly faster than Superman... even in that first Superman sequence (which is again just overall so much better... and it was one of my favourite scenes from the original) it's shown that Supes can't actually keep up with him, he can see him and swing at him but it's "sluggish" with Flash still able to easily dodge the blows, he just makes the error of trying to shove Superman back and ****s himself up because obviously it's like hitting a wall. Also in the finale he runs at, and eventually exceeding, light speed so... yeah... Whedon did him wrowng too. I feel like Joss Whedon actively fangirls Superman and it really shows in his cut, and is a massive detriment to the entire film. This feels like an actual team of superheroes where everyone has a part to play, and that's how Justice League should be, not a B-team of incompetents who need Superman to save the day.

But yeah in general... the changes in the final act really are staggering. Completely different movie. And some of the stuff that was left out - the whole Batmobile sequence! amazing, HOW could you leave that on the cutting room floor? I can only imagine it was unfinished and was one of the sequences that they finished up for this. Also there are NO civilians to be saved and it doesn't need them, so no silly scenes with Flash pushing a car along while Supes carries an entire building .


But yeah tl;dr this is definite catharsis for any DC fan who doesn't just stan Superman, because it actually respects and elevates the other heroes and not just one.

If I had one minus it would probably be that there is some very occasional cheesy dialogue that feels a little out of place. But the general pacing is so good, and the action is so on-point, it's easily overlooked.

I also am unsure that the "epilogue" stuff was needed now that the DCEU has spun off in other directions, it feels like it was purely setting up stuff that is now not going to happen, and could just have been left off completely?

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It was basically setting up Injustice, even hinting at it being an alternate timeline which Injustice is in comic form, and while it could in theory be epic it's not realistically happening is it so why go there .

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I'm still yet to see it but everything you said TS makes me happy

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I prefer Wally West Flash but yeah, neither are the bumbling fool Whedon presents. In most cases he is faster than Supes, but to the be it can depend on the writer. I liked that WW and Aquaman worked together, they do that a fair bit as neither have full time civilian identities.
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Also not to go on about Snyder cinematography (and I am a self-confessed fan) BUT come on, you just don't get screenshots like this from yucky Whedon League do you. Obviously plenty of the same influence is there but literally all of the best shots of the movie are new to this version. I've left off one of my personal favs as it's a massive final-battle spoiler . The two below are not really spoilery.

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Also a shot where Barry literally bursts out of his shoes immediately preceding this because he moves so fast when he sees the crash (hence bare feet here). Just an epic little touch that makes all the difference
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Ooo there's gonna be a movie with/about Zatanna She's one of my favourite minor Leaguers <3

I've not seen Promising Young Woman, any good? It's gonna be by Emerald Fennell, the writer-director of that.

Her history in comics is a bit dark:
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Sue Dibny, the wife of Elongated Man, was (apparently) murdered by a villain called Dr Light. A lot of the younger heroes (like the Titans etc and newer JLA members) were shocked by this, as up to that point he'd basically been a joke villain...
... But he was a joke villain because he was basically lobotomised by Zatanna's magic several years ago, after he broke into the JLA's headquarters and raped Sue. The no-kill rule was in place, but none of the JLA could bear the thought of imprisoning him or letting him go, so they came up with that idea.
The vote was split, with Batman as the tie-breaker. He was against it. But they did it anyway, and Zatanna erased his memories of the event. She did the same with Superman, as he'd be likely to tell Bruce.

I will add, it sounds "women in refrigerators", but it's not. Sue's death wasn't a plot device to drive Elongated's emotions, it was a catalyst which was the first of a handful of people close to hero's being hit.
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I've not read Identity Crisis in ages so some of the details might be a bit wrong, but that's the gist of it!


I just googled Promising Young Woman, and Emerald Fennell clearly doesn't shy away from rape related things, so I wouldn't discount them using that book as a framework for the movie, but who knows!
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Default 4 Hour Movie on SkyMoviesHD : Zack Snyder's Justice League

The 240mins Movie


Zack walked away from this Movie
but due to popular demand went back
Zack Snyder's Definitive cut.


8PM tonight till Midnight SkyPremiereHD



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It’s absolutely brilliant !!




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Yes longer version.


With many extended scenes , lots of brand new footage also


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With so much time
they could have done a 3-D Version
as an addition.
For those that like 3-D.


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The aesthetics were never the issue with Snyder's offerings, tbh. I just don't know if there's actually anything to work with to create a good cohesive film, especially when it looks like they're just throwing everything into it.

The original Justice League felt overly long and it was under two hours, I think this will end up being a slog.

Yes Hard to watch in one go
uses 4.6 of my Hard Drive on SkyHD


I watched in 2 halfs.
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There was tons of reshoots, and last I heard some new footage will be shot too.

Yes there sure was.


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For those that like 3-D.





I know you do not


True

It’s getting far better viewer ratings on IMDB so I’m thinking there may be a sequel / follow up eventually... given that money talks


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uses 4.6 of my Hard Drive on SkyHD





I watched in 2 halfs.


I watched it in THREE goes

The only bits I could have done without were the lovey-dovey sequence with Superman and Lois Lane plus that Batman dream section


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I'm still yet to watch the movie itself, but this scene is absolutely gorgeous.
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I'm still yet to watch the movie itself, but this scene is absolutely gorgeous.


Yes I agree totally.. one of my favourites


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I'm still yet to watch the movie itself, but this scene is absolutely gorgeous.

Yeah that was a standout for me, that’s the scene I took one of my screenshots from. It’s a stand-alone great piece of cinematography, I have no idea why they wouldn’t find room to squeeze it into the theatrical cut, other than a couple of things I guess... one is that it might have been hard to crop well for the cinema aspect ratio. I was a bit alarmed when I heard the Snyder cut was presented in 4:3 (old TV ratio) but after a couple of action sequences... I completely get it and why it actually works so much better for this types of movies. They can do so much with the verticality of that space. Beautiful.
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The only bits I could have done without were the lovey-dovey sequence with Superman and Lois Lane plus that Batman dream section


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I don’t mind Supes and Lois really,it’s how they showcase his humanity but that said they probably highlighted it because it’s a huge part of what leads to the “injustice” plotline (Superman going dark after the death of Lois) and that’s also what the Batman dream sequence was setting up. I do actually agree though that, as it’s most likely not happening and WB has gone in a different direction with DC, I think the future dream sequence could have been cut. All it does is tease a movie that will never exist.
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I don’t mind Supes and Lois really,it’s how they showcase his humanity but that said they probably highlighted it because it’s a huge part of what leads to the “injustice” plotline (Superman going dark after the death of Lois) and that’s also what the Batman dream sequence was setting up. I do actually agree though that, as it’s most likely not happening and WB has gone in a different direction with DC, I think the future dream sequence could have been cut. All it does is tease a movie that will never exist.


Well being cynical... given that the new version is getting rave reviews.. even the IMDB viewer ratings are far better ..

I just wondered if MONEY will talk and influence the decisions ??


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