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Tom4784 · 22-03-2021, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes they are serving their country so they ain’t got nothing in common with Harry any more

All Harry does these days is serve the tea when meghans friends pop round.

What a grotesque thing to say, Harry was in the military for ten years which is probably ten years longer than most of us here.

I do despise people who will use the military as a prop to make themselves look humble and holier than thou and then **** on a veteran for being a veteran just because it doesn't suit them to be thankful for their service.

GoldHeart · 22-03-2021, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

As if anyone on the planet believes it was Harry’s idea to live in America in celebrity central.

Harry’s idea was to live in Africa in a mud hut and drive an elephant to work.

There you go again making assumptions of what Harry wanted and where Harry wanted to live , why wouldn't he want to live in America ? afterall it's where Meghan was born and bred .

Tom4784 · 22-03-2021, 03:11 AM

People really need to learn how to separate their assumptions from established facts.

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There you go again making assumptions of what Harry wanted and where Harry wanted to live , why wouldn't he want to live in America ? afterall it's where Meghan was born and bred .

Yes Meghan was born and bred there its the place she calls home it’s not Harry’s country of birth or some were he has ever mentioned he wanted to live.

Harry has gone to were his wife wanted to live not the other way round.

Harry longed to live in Africa and help poor people have better life’s so there are no assumptions.

People make sacrifices when they are in relationships and Harry has gone to were Meghan wanted to be.

Because the facts are they were going to live half in the uk half in Canada with their half in half out idea when they got told it was all or nothing they went to America.

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

People really need to learn how to separate their assumptions from established facts.

People need to learn to accept they can’t be right all the time.

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a grotesque thing to say, Harry was in the military for ten years which is probably ten years longer than most of us here.

I do despise people who will use the military as a prop to make themselves look humble and holier than thou and then **** on a veteran for being a veteran just because it doesn't suit them to be thankful for their service.

Do you really think Harry actually shot any one? Or saw live combat?

They was never going to let a royal get killed they let Harry play in the army
If you really want to look closer at it he was probably never had the iq to even be an officer and from memory her struggled to get through army training.

Charles is one of the most educated royals and can fly planes helicopters and was proper officer material.

Ammi · 22-03-2021, 05:53 AM

...there is a Sky News interview with one of Harry’s friends, Dean Stott...(...I would say as a general, though...)...Meghan has come under the largest criticisms from the media, hence the chain of events in the first place that led to them stepping back...so there would be some speaking out for her from those who have known her in the past and who don’t recognise this ‘media creation of the vilifying of Meghan’...

...this really now feels like the media/social media etc trying to push stories almost daily, rather than now just give them space to see what family healing can be done...it feels as though, the media and some public don’t want any healing, that there is a thriving off any discord within the family atm because a chain of events and (..possibly faults by all parties...)...has led to a stepping back of senior royals and a decision to live overseas to build a new life...

Youtube video

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Do you really think Harry actually shot any one? Or saw live combat?

They was never going to let a royal get killed they let Harry play in the army
If you really want to look closer at it he was probably never had the iq to even be an officer and from memory her struggled to get through army training.

Charles is one of the most educated royals and can fly planes helicopters and was proper officer material.

He served on the front line in both Iraq and Afghanistan. He was only brought home because a media blackout was breached and it became a concern that he would be a Taliban target and risk his whole company

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ry.afghanistan

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

He served on the front line in both Iraq and Afghanistan. He was only brought home because a media blackout was breached and it became a concern that he would be a Taliban target and risk his whole company

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ry.afghanistan

I don’t believe he was in any real danger for one minute

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I don’t believe he was in any real danger for one minute

The front line is the front line in a war zone. Did you want him shot to prove he has seen active service? I'm sure the other soldiers he served with will tell you that the danger was very real every minute of every day

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

The front line is the front line in a war zone. Did you want him shot to prove he has seen active service? I'm sure the other soldiers he served with will tell you that the danger was very real every minute of every day

See when the news black out was broken and there was a danger of the taliban killing him he was brought home but I bet his fellow soldiers were left there to take there chances.

You are absolutely absolutely wet behind the he ears if you think he was put in the line of fire.
And that old do I want killed line is not going to wash with me.

jet · 22-03-2021, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No jet I’m saying that Harry and Meghan can say what they want AND William can say what he wants, because neither is bigger nor cleverer nor more important than the other. I’m not the one with double standards. I would just at least like some sort of consistency - condemning one whilst excusing the other is (again) demonstrative of bias and at this point, as I said,it’s pretty clear that these threads are not really discussions so much as just watching people barf up pro-monarchy propaganda.

I’m angry because I don’t like wasting my time locking horns with zealots.

1. There is no bias or double standards in this case, just fairness and common sense.
2. People who are making excuses/twist the facts for H&M at every turn just look foolish.
3. The anti - monarchy propaganda is blatantly obvious in some cases.
4. Posting is a choice.

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

See when the news black out was broken and there was a danger of the taliban killing him he was brought home but I bet his fellow soldiers were left there to take there chances.

You are absolutely absolutely wet behind the he ears if you think he was put in the line of fire.
And that old do I want killed line is not going to wash with me.

Do not insult me please. I am done with this conversation, I will tale the word of the Royal British Army over someone in TiBB. They confirmed he saw active service on the front line. I really don't care what will wash with you or not.

You said he saw not active service, I told you he did.

That's it for me. Once again proving that a reasonable debate cannot be had without insulting members.

arista · 22-03-2021, 06:17 AM

GoldHeart · 22-03-2021, 06:19 AM

So now Harry's IQ is being insulted ?, i didn't realise there was army experts here. He obviously contributed something if he was there 10 years.

Why does it matter so much if they live in America ?or Africa ?, it's their choice and just because it's Meghan's home DOES NOT mean Harry didn't want to live there aswell. They're a couple , you make compromises .

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Do not insult me please. I am done with this conversation, I will tale the word of the Royal British Army over someone in TiBB. They confirmed he saw active service on the front line. I really don't care what will wash with you or not.

You said he saw not active service, I told you he did.

That's it for me. Once again proving that a reasonable debate cannot be had without insulting members.

so now I’m insulting you please your clutching at straws

He saw service just like you can be in the army and cook the meals or drive a druck.

jet · 22-03-2021, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Rags are rags.

I don't think anything when it comes to the royals, I just go off their direct statements because I'm not a crazy person who thinks they know the inner workings of a family I'm not part of based on dubious rags with a bone to pick.

Nothing about what I said is BS. You are heavily engaged in strawman arguments and confirmation bias.

A strawman argument is 'an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.' In this case, you're making out that criticising people for not finding fault with this story when they criticised Meghan for a similar story a while ago are somehow saying that Harry and Meghan can say what they want while the royals cannot, something that is false to anyone with basic reading comprehension.

I will continue to point out the flaws in your arguments while they continue to be ever present and fatal to what you are trying to say.

And I will continue to say BS.

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

So now Harry's IQ is being insulted ?, i didn't realise there was army experts here. He obviously contributed something if he was there 10 years.

Why does it matter so much if they live in America ?or Africa ?, it's their choice and just because it's Meghan's home DOES NOT mean Harry didn't want to live there aswell. They're a couple , you make compromises .

Exactly it’s Harry that’s made the compromise not Meghan.

GoldHeart · 22-03-2021, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I don’t believe he was in any real danger for one minute

A PRINCE not in any real danger on front line in combat?? , suuree ok . Because the terrorists wouldn't try and kidnap him or anything would they.

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

so now I’m insulting you please your clutching at straws

He saw service just like you can be in the army and cook the meals or drive a druck.

Did you even read the article confirming he faced the same dangers as any soldier? Here's another one....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...han-markle-spt

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

A PRINCE not in any real danger on front line in combat?? , suuree ok . Because the terrorists wouldn't try and kidnap him or anything would they.

Like he was ever put in danger lol
There was a risk assessment without doubt, Harry went in when it was safe to do so.

arista · 22-03-2021, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

People really need to learn how to separate their assumptions from established facts.

Sure that's goes on alot.

But after the long CBS interview
on ITV1HD we got to understand
the bitterness that Harry and Meghan have.

thesheriff443 · 22-03-2021, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

Did you even read the article confirming he faced the same dangers as any soldier? Here's another one....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...han-markle-spt

You see all those medals Charles Harry William wear on their chest they are give to them by the queen they are just token medals

Harry was a token soldier nothing more.

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Like he was ever put in danger lol
There was a risk assessment without doubt, Harry went in when it was safe to do so.

You need to do a bit more reading on his time in. There is so many things you can slag him off about but belittling his time in Iraq and Afghanistan is also belittling the people he served with...some who probably didn't come home or who came home seriously injured.

AnnieK · 22-03-2021, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You see all those medals Charles Harry William wear on their chest they are give to them by the queen they are just token medals

Harry was a token soldier nothing more.

You are so wrong about this that it is not worth wasting my time.

You have a good day

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