[LeatherTrumpet]

and since when has doubting the lies from a paid-for sham "interview" been right wing?

so its left wing to fall for it?

[Ammi]

...coming over here, stealing our Prince’s...

[Ammi]

...and the Royal establishment’s aim is to distance themselves from racial prejudice...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So if they reviewed the new Honda Jazz HYbrid

YOu would dismiss the review as a right-wing (right-wheel drive) conspiracy?

sure

I must have missed that car review video . Maybe you can point it out amongst this array of worrying propaganda;

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and since when has doubting the lies from a paid-for sham "interview" been right wing?

so its left wing to fall for it?

Wanking off the monarchy is thoroughly right-wing nationalist.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I must have missed that car review video . Maybe you can point it out amongst this array of worrying propaganda;





Wanking off the monarchy is thoroughly right-wing nationalist.

what nonsense

are you saying there are no-labour supporting royalists now?

you have just cancelled joey for a start-off

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what nonsense

are you saying there are no-labour supporting royalists now?

you have just cancelled joey for a start-off

I'm saying there's orange on my radar LT but I think my post got deleted the last time I said that.

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what has the site's profile got to do with that man's views on Markle?

Absolutely nothing. It's his opinion. I have leftie friends who don't like her and rightie friends who do. Everything has to be one way or the other and based on so called 'political bias' on here.

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and since when has doubting the lies from a paid-for sham "interview" been right wing?

so its left wing to fall for it?

Seems that way. We are all in little boxes apparently.

[Tom4784]

Turning Point exists to tell the gullible right wing what they want to hear and make money from the clicks they provide.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by jet

Seems that way. We are all in little boxes apparently.

I note that his opinions (Londoner) remain unchallenged?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The video has the Turning Point UK logo emblazoned on it. It's posted on their official YouTube.

The whole movement is dedicated to "sticking it to da lefties" and literally the FIRST blog listed on their articles page is "The UK is not a racist country". The 5th down is "I'm a Nationalist, baby!" with a massive Union Jack across it.

I'm not going to pretend you don't understand why this makes the source demonstrably biased and agenda-driven in being pro-Monarchy and anti-Markle.

What's racist about the union jack?:

[jet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I note that his opinions (Londoner) remain unchallenged?

Noted.

[Tom4784]

It says a lot when people have to rely on propaganda to sate their confirmation bias.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What's racist about the union jack?:

Again, nothing. It's just straw clutching now.

[Ammi]

...I recall when Slim first posted about Turning Point quite a while ago...Is this not a little similar to when the KKK expressed support of Trump, it’s not that far removed...I’m pretty sure that the Royal family wouldn’t approve anything other than a huge, huge distance between their own views and those in any way associated with Turning Point U.K...crikey....



...Slim’s post in another thread...

I wonder what folks would have to search/watch to come across YT vids of these guys - they never show up in my recommendations, let me put it like that.


Former TPUSA National Field Director Crystal Clanton sent text messages to another TPUSA employee that said “I HATE BLACK PEOPLE. Like **** them all . . . I hate blacks. End of story.” Kirk had previously said about Clanton: “Turning Point needs more Crystals; so does America.”

After firing Clanton when her racist text message became public, Kirk hired Shialee Grooman and Troy Meeker. HuffPost reported that Grooman had written several anti-gay and racist tweets that included the n-word and Meeker had also tweeted an anti-Black slur. HuffPost also reported that former TPUSA Midwest regional manager Timon Prax was pushed out because of his record of using “bigoted language in tweets and texts,” including racist jokes and messages that “made fun of black people and referred to them as slaves.”

A former TPUSA field director recalled watching speakers at one of the organization’s annual student summits who “spoke badly about black women having all these babies out of wedlock. It was really offensive.” Speaking to The New Yorker in 2017, the former employee said that “looking back, I think it was racist.”

TPUSA defended Florida Atlantic University professor and TPUSA chapter faculty adviser Marshall DeRosa after The Nation reported his ties to white nationalist group League of the South.

At a December 2017 TPUSA conference, attendee Juan Pablo Andrade was recorded telling several other conference attendees, “The only thing the Nazis didn’t get right is they didn’t keep ****ing going!”

Members of the TPUSA chapter at Florida International University shared “racist memes and rape jokes” in the group’s chat messages. According to the Miami New Times, a prominent chapter member had to tell other TPUSA members to “avoid using the n word and don't reference Richard Spencer too much and don't Jew hate ... all the time.”

TPUSA Director of Urban Engagement Brandon Tatum told anti-Semitic YouTuber Bryan “Hotep Jesus” Sharpe that Sharpe was banned from TPUSA events because of “the optics of the anti-Semitic rhetoric.” Tatum summarized TPUSA’s position as being “between a rock and a hard place” because while “personally, none of us have a problem with you -- we want you here. It’s the optics. The media.”

TPUSA’s Iowa State University chapter reportedly invited white nationalist YouTuber Nick Fuentes to speak on campus.

TPUSA Chief Creative Officer Benny Johnson kicked off a TPUSA event by saying, “Oh my God, I've never seen so many white people in one room. This is incredible!”

Speaking at the December 11 launch of Turning Point UK, then-TPUSA Communications Director Candace Owens said, “If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. ... I have no problems with nationalism.”

Riley Grisar, president of TPUSA’s University of Nevada chapter, praised white supremacy, saying, “We’re going to rule the country! White power!” and using the n-word in a video uncovered by the anti-fascist website It’s Going Down News.

Former TPUSA high school outreach director Kyle Kashuv apologized on May 22 for his use of racial slurs while in high school. Kashuv joined TPUSA after becoming a prominent pro-gun activist following a deadly shooting at the school he attended, Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL. On April 26, Kashuv spoke at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting, and as of May 16, he stepped down from his position at TPUSA. As reported by The Daily Beast, right-wing activists and Parkland students circulated a Google Doc and screenshots of texts attributed to Kashuv in which he had used the n-word repeatedly.

TPUSA has cut ties with Ashley St. Clair, a conservative social media personality and one of the organization’s brand ambassadors, after she was photographed at a dinner with multiple white nationalist and anti-Semitic figures, including Fuentes and Tim Gionet (also known online as “Baked Alaska”)


https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...65&postcount=2

[jet]

Tipping Point - the things that go on in game shows these days.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I recall when Slim first posted about Tipping Point quite a while ago...Is this not a little similar to when the KKK expressed support of Trump, it’s not that far removed...I’m pretty sure that the Royal family wouldn’t approve anything other than a huge, huge distance between their own views and those in any way associated with Tipping Point U.K...crikey....



...Slim’s post in another thread...

I wonder what folks would have to search/watch to come across YT vids of these guys - they never show up in my recommendations, let me put it like that.


Former TPUSA National Field Director Crystal Clanton sent text messages to another TPUSA employee that said “I HATE BLACK PEOPLE. Like **** them all . . . I hate blacks. End of story.” Kirk had previously said about Clanton: “Turning Point needs more Crystals; so does America.”

After firing Clanton when her racist text message became public, Kirk hired Shialee Grooman and Troy Meeker. HuffPost reported that Grooman had written several anti-gay and racist tweets that included the n-word and Meeker had also tweeted an anti-Black slur. HuffPost also reported that former TPUSA Midwest regional manager Timon Prax was pushed out because of his record of using “bigoted language in tweets and texts,” including racist jokes and messages that “made fun of black people and referred to them as slaves.”

A former TPUSA field director recalled watching speakers at one of the organization’s annual student summits who “spoke badly about black women having all these babies out of wedlock. It was really offensive.” Speaking to The New Yorker in 2017, the former employee said that “looking back, I think it was racist.”

TPUSA defended Florida Atlantic University professor and TPUSA chapter faculty adviser Marshall DeRosa after The Nation reported his ties to white nationalist group League of the South.

At a December 2017 TPUSA conference, attendee Juan Pablo Andrade was recorded telling several other conference attendees, “The only thing the Nazis didn’t get right is they didn’t keep ****ing going!”

Members of the TPUSA chapter at Florida International University shared “racist memes and rape jokes” in the group’s chat messages. According to the Miami New Times, a prominent chapter member had to tell other TPUSA members to “avoid using the n word and don't reference Richard Spencer too much and don't Jew hate ... all the time.”

TPUSA Director of Urban Engagement Brandon Tatum told anti-Semitic YouTuber Bryan “Hotep Jesus” Sharpe that Sharpe was banned from TPUSA events because of “the optics of the anti-Semitic rhetoric.” Tatum summarized TPUSA’s position as being “between a rock and a hard place” because while “personally, none of us have a problem with you -- we want you here. It’s the optics. The media.”

TPUSA’s Iowa State University chapter reportedly invited white nationalist YouTuber Nick Fuentes to speak on campus.

TPUSA Chief Creative Officer Benny Johnson kicked off a TPUSA event by saying, “Oh my God, I've never seen so many white people in one room. This is incredible!”

Speaking at the December 11 launch of Turning Point UK, then-TPUSA Communications Director Candace Owens said, “If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. ... I have no problems with nationalism.”

Riley Grisar, president of TPUSA’s University of Nevada chapter, praised white supremacy, saying, “We’re going to rule the country! White power!” and using the n-word in a video uncovered by the anti-fascist website It’s Going Down News.

Former TPUSA high school outreach director Kyle Kashuv apologized on May 22 for his use of racial slurs while in high school. Kashuv joined TPUSA after becoming a prominent pro-gun activist following a deadly shooting at the school he attended, Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL. On April 26, Kashuv spoke at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting, and as of May 16, he stepped down from his position at TPUSA. As reported by The Daily Beast, right-wing activists and Parkland students circulated a Google Doc and screenshots of texts attributed to Kashuv in which he had used the n-word repeatedly.

TPUSA has cut ties with Ashley St. Clair, a conservative social media personality and one of the organization’s brand ambassadors, after she was photographed at a dinner with multiple white nationalist and anti-Semitic figures, including Fuentes and Tim Gionet (also known online as “Baked Alaska”)


https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...65&postcount=2

It's a truly terrible organisation, an echo chamber of racism.

[Ammi]

...yeah, you knew what I meant, Dezzy...(...I’ll correct my mistype...)...I can’t see that any views of Turning Point U.K. would in any way align to any of the Royal family...they’re a very extreme organisation...

[Cherie]

It's also a very extreme view to be called racist, I doubt the family align with that either.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, you knew what I meant, Dezzy...(...I’ll correct my mistype...)...I can’t see that any views of Turning Point U.K. would in any way align to any of the Royal family...they’re a very extreme organisation...

I knew what you meant too, obviously, it made me laugh is all.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It's also a very extreme view to be called racist, I doubt the family align with that either.

Exactly. Why anyone would call the royals racist is beyond me, the work they have been doing all around the Commonwealth for many decades to raise awareness of racial issues and help disadvantaged minority ethnic communities is very impressive.

Reposting this as an example:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...racism-simply/

Peaches Golding: The idea the Royal family could be linked to racism simply doesn’t ring true
The first black female Lord-Lieutenant has worked with the royals since 1995, and didn't recognise the institution the Sussexes described
PEACHES GOLDING
LORD-LIEUTENANT BRISTOL

Excerpts:
In the three decades I have worked with them I have performed various different roles, and now serve as Lord-Lieutenant. Much has changed in that time, but one thing that hasn’t wavered is the Royal family’s dedication to prioritising diversity and working to improve opportunities for minority ethnic communities.
Over the years, I’ve had the pleasure of working with all the royal households and have always been met with courtesy, dignity and respect. I’ve always worked with people who are trying to get the best out of everyone they work with.

Being Lord-Lieutenant is a voluntary role, but each week I find myself doing 20-plus things for Her Majesty in her bid to modernise this country. Right now, we are looking at the structural inequality we know exists in British workplaces. The project stems from the Prince of Wales’s own personal interest and, in light of the Black Lives Matter movement, his determination to do something to improve the educational, employability and entrepreneurial opportunities available to people of minority ethnicity.

It is just one example of how, guided by the Queen, the Prince and the topics they care deeply about, we can create real change. Their sense of what issues need addressing, and their own values of respect, dignity and social cohesion, come through in everything we do. They are values that come directly from the Royal family and are entirely inconsistent with racism......ETC.....

[Toy Soldier]

Honestly when we start getting to people promoting/defending **** like Turning Point you surely need to be taking stock of where you’re at. Like by all means defend your opinions on the royals/Harry and Meghan but the “Ummmm deeeerp there is nothing wrong with these YouTube channels or sites what are you even saying”.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly when we start getting to people promoting/defending **** like Turning Point you surely need to be taking stock of where you’re at. Like by all means defend your opinions on the royals/Harry and Meghan but the “Ummmm deeeerp there is nothing wrong with these YouTube channels or sites what are you even saying”.

Who is promoting/defending it?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jet

Who is promoting/defending it?

LT promoted it by posting their videos on the site, then feigned that he could see no issue with their website nor the list of videos on their YouTube channel. Several people then pretended that their was either no issue with Turning Point, or that it didn’t matter that the video came from Turning Point.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly when we start getting to people promoting/defending **** like Turning Point you surely need to be taking stock of where you’re at. Like by all means defend your opinions on the royals/Harry and Meghan but the “Ummmm deeeerp there is nothing wrong with these YouTube channels or sites what are you even saying”.