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arista · 03-04-2021, 04:19 AM

[Rowley Regis dog attack: Elderly woman (in her 80s)
dies after two escaped dogs attacked her
in her garden
A 43-year-old man is being questioned
on suspicion of being the person
in charge of a dog dangerously out of control.]

[A post-mortem examination will take place
and police have said they will remain
at the scene while they establish
the full circumstances.
In a statement, West Midlands Police said: "Our thoughts
are with the family and friends of the
woman at this deeply distressing time."]

https://news.sky.com/story/rowley-re...arden-12264200

‘Dog-owner’ is arrested

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Midlands.html

Ammi · 03-04-2021, 05:57 AM

...what an horrendous savage thing, poor lady...that’s so, so awful...and the dogs will be killed because someone has kept them that way to become savage and able to harm someone...

arista · 03-04-2021, 05:23 PM

https://news.sky.com/story/great-gra...-dogs-12264935

There is a photo of the 85 year old
killed by these 2 Dangerous Dogs.

She came so far in her great life
so tragic these 2 Killer Dogs were free to enter her garden.

Cherie · 03-04-2021, 10:00 PM

Such a tragedy

LaLaLand · 03-04-2021, 10:54 PM

Awful thing to happen.

The blame should be only to the owner, not the dogs.

Have they revealed what breeds the dogs were? Always seem to usually see "Staffy type" or "Bulldog type" dogs in these attacks and it breaks my heart because I've grown up with Staffy's and currently have a big Bulldog x (my baby girl, she's 10 now) and they've been nothing but absolutely lovely and affectionate. Wouldn't hurt a fly - great with all ages and especially LOVE children, other dogs, cats, strangers etc.

Hate seeing them all tarnished with the same brush.

Vicky. · 03-04-2021, 11:57 PM

I don't think the fault always lies with the owners tbh. I know its not a popular opinion as people prefer to think of dogs as totally safe if you bring them up right..but I do not think its often possible to totally tame a dog. Someone I know had a dog from being a pup that they had seemingly perfectly trained (a couple I know had similar incidents actually, but this was 'the worst'). Soft as muck, everyone knew it as. Still, it randomly turned on a kid and just lunged from nowhere near, luckily while in the presence of others so the attack was not so bad and it was just a bit of a nasty bite but no bad injuries as such, as adults were able to get involved and stop it..maybe the child looked at it the wrong way, maybe the dog just had 'a turn' or something, but it was not a case of child pulling its tail or whatever. So so lucky there were people there and in the correct positions strong enough to stop it quickly, as it could have been so much worse.

While there is a lot of crappy owners, some who purposely train the dogs to be that way, I totally disagree with the sentiment that its always the owners fault.

Its actually one of the reasons I am quite reluctant to get a dog til the children are a lot older tbh. While I grew up with 2 dogs that were well trained..I know a few too many who have turned at a seconds notice, when seemingly fine beforehand :S

RIP to the woman though, awful way to go.

parmnion · 04-04-2021, 12:02 AM

I would prefer the dogs not to be put down.

Cherie · 04-04-2021, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think the fault always lies with the owners tbh. I know its not a popular opinion as people prefer to think of dogs as totally safe if you bring them up right..but I do not think its often possible to totally tame a dog. Someone I know had a dog from being a pup that they had seemingly perfectly trained (a couple I know had similar incidents actually, but this was 'the worst'). Soft as muck, everyone knew it as. Still, it randomly turned on a kid and just lunged from nowhere near, luckily while in the presence of others so the attack was not so bad and it was just a bit of a nasty bite but no bad injuries as such, as adults were able to get involved and stop it..maybe the child looked at it the wrong way, maybe the dog just had 'a turn' or something, but it was not a case of child pulling its tail or whatever. So so lucky there were people there and in the correct positions strong enough to stop it quickly, as it could have been so much worse.

While there is a lot of crappy owners, some who purposely train the dogs to be that way, I totally disagree with the sentiment that its always the owners fault.

Its actually one of the reasons I am quite reluctant to get a dog til the children are a lot older tbh. While I grew up with 2 dogs that were well trained..I know a few too many who have turned at a seconds notice, when seemingly fine beforehand :S

RIP to the woman though, awful way to go.

I tend to agree with all you said Vicky

arista · 04-04-2021, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I would prefer the dogs not to be put down.

Then the owner should go to Jail

joeysteele · 04-04-2021, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Awful thing to happen.

The blame should be only to the owner, not the dogs.

Have they revealed what breeds the dogs were? Always seem to usually see "Staffy type" or "Bulldog type" dogs in these attacks and it breaks my heart because I've grown up with Staffy's and currently have a big Bulldog x (my baby girl, she's 10 now) and they've been nothing but absolutely lovely and affectionate. Wouldn't hurt a fly - great with all ages and especially LOVE children, other dogs, cats, strangers etc.

Hate seeing them all tarnished with the same brush.

They've described them as big dogs.

Like you, I've had Staffie's and still have and he's so gentle and tolerant.

The one I had before him, I never even came across him snarling at anyone.
He was and is my special one

This one is similar.

This is a horrendous incident however, the Lady was in and should have been safe in her own garden area.

It's about ensuring your pets are secure too.
When I've mine on a lead outside, except in an area where I know no one is going to be, him on the lead is protection for him, myself and all others.

So I do blame the owners here in the greater part.
Dogs can and will be aggressive if challenged or if they sense fear too.

Really awful for this Lady to have suffered this.
I would be interested in learning the breed of dog this was.
As I don't consider Staffies big dogs.
They are strong beings definitely.

I can't imagine the fear this Lady must have felt however, bless her.

Toy Soldier · 04-04-2021, 08:31 AM

There blatantly ARE differences between breeds, also. I grew up with terriers and frankly, had they not been pint-sized, they would have been quite scary. My current dog is my first retriever and honestly it was weird getting used to such a friendly, largely obedient, silly big dog who just wants affection and attention all day. Obviously you should never get complacent but I could genuinely take her favourite food directly out of her mouth with my bare hand and she would just be like "

oh well." The little dog my mum had when I was a teen would have nipped your hand for looking at it the wrong way.

Sadly though with things like Staffies, it's a self-perpetuating stereotype. The dogs themselves are generally nice naatured, but the "rep" they have prompts certain types of owner to buy them, they encourage aggression, the dog becomes aggressive, and so the image is maintained. They also have extremely strong jaws/necks which makes attacks by those breeds much more likely to end in serious injury or death.