[Tom4784]

Nothing is stopping the tories anyway. We're a nation of bootlicking doormats that love to be treated badly by them and nothing's gonna change that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nothing is stopping the tories anyway. We're a nation of bootlicking doormats that love to be treated badly by them and nothing's gonna change that.

I would have though the way
Johnson failed on Covid-19
that in a General Election
Labour can win.

[Tom4784]

Nah, Boris can do no wrong in the eyes of Tory voters. I know so many people that are sympathetic to him and act like he's doing his best and that's okay when it's not. We've basically become a one party system at this point, and things will only ever change when the public grow tired of being treated like ****, but they won't. They're prefer the boot on their necks as long as it belongs to Boris.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

He just did a TV Party Political Broadcast
he want's to help the NHS.


Under this Pandemic
he can not do alot.


So give him a chance
Slim.

Johnson has just brought US health insurance execs onto his team as advisors, so if Starmer gave a sh1t about the NHS he should be out in the media. We've been warning about troubles in Ireland for years now, because of brexit, so why isn't Starmer holding Johnson to account for putting a border in, when Johnson said that was something he would never do?

He will get a chance if he starts acting like the leader of an opposition supposedly on the left. I don't want to hear about putting more police on the streets, I want to hear how he will reduce income inequality, the need for foodbanks etc.

He wont out tory the tories, so it's pointless.

If, however, he does make proportional rep a big issue, then that would be at least be a start.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nah, Boris can do no wrong in the eyes of Tory voters. I know so many people that are sympathetic to him and act like he's doing his best and that's okay when it's not. We've basically become a one party system at this point, and things will only ever change when the public grow tired of being treated like ****, but they won't. They're prefer the boot on their necks as long as it belongs to Boris.

I think it's important to just add that Brits will happily accept a boot on the neck, as long as they believe their neighbour is getting 2 boots on the neck. for such a bunch of WW2 fawning, flag shagging, gallahads, we're actually a bunch of subservient conformists.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think it's important to just add that Brits will happily accept a boot on the neck, as long as they believe their neighbour is getting 2 boots on the neck. for such a bunch of WW2 fawning, flag shagging, gallahads, we're actually a bunch of subservient conformists.

Pretty much. We're such a weak and pathetic country.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Johnson has just brought US health insurance execs onto his team as advisors, so if Starmer gave a sh1t about the NHS he should be out in the media. We've been warning about troubles in Ireland for years now, because of brexit, so why isn't Starmer holding Johnson to account for putting a border in, when Johnson said that was something he would never do?

He will get a chance if he starts acting like the leader of an opposition supposedly on the left. I don't want to hear about putting more police on the streets, I want to hear how he will reduce income inequality, the need for foodbanks etc.

He wont out tory the tories, so it's pointless.

If, however, he does make proportional rep a big issue, then that would be at least be a start.

Its the Pandemic in the way.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Its the Pandemic in the way.

Not sure how that could even be remotely true.

KS - Boris you were warned about putting a border in the Irish sea, you said you would never do it, you did it and now the troubles are starting up again, so this is on you.

Simplistic - but a quick point.

The pandemic is one of the reasons we needed an effective opposition, it shouldn't have been an excuse not to provide one at all.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not sure how that could even be remotely true.

KS - Boris you were warned about putting a border in the Irish sea, you said you would never do it, you did it and now the troubles are starting up again, so this is on you.

Simplistic - but a quick point.

The pandemic is one of the reasons we needed an effective opposition, it shouldn't have been an excuse not to provide one at all.

I do agree here.

I'm disappointed with the level of intensity of opposition being near non existent.
The vaccines aside at present.

There's very little to have supported this government on and a great deal which should be highlighted more by the opposition, as to the dangerous wrongs this government has managed to get away with.
So far that is.

Even too, the Lib Dems seem wary of criticising the government too.

I'm really disappointed myself re Starmer actually at present and I fear he's got more negativity to come when the series of elections are held in May.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Starmer's a useless wankstain, the sooner he ****s off, the better.

When he first got the Labour leadership I was kinda impressed with him but now everytime he opens his mouth he goes down in my estimation..


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[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think it's important to just add that Brits will happily accept a boot on the neck, as long as they believe their neighbour is getting 2 boots on the neck. for such a bunch of WW2 fawning, flag shagging, gallahads, we're actually a bunch of subservient conformists.

This is possibly one of the truest (and most depressing) posts I have read on here.

[arista]

https://order-order.com/2021/04/08/l...s-on-logo-use/

[When Vote Leave plastered the NHS’s logo on the side
of the infamous campaign bus,
there was outrage from almost everyone on
the left of the political spectrum.
Labour’s then Shadow Health Secretary, Heidi Alexander,
was quick to jump onto the big red
outrage bus, going as far as writing
a letter to NHS England’s Chief Executive Simon Stevens
urging him to make a “clear statement”
distancing the public service from the campaign.
How times change.

Throughout last night’s party political broadcast
Keir Starmer tried to make the association
that a vote for Labour was
a “vote for our NHS”.
Labour diligently reminded listeners of
this fact by flashing the
NHS’s official logo on screen no less than
twelve times to drive the message
home subliminally. Naughty…]

[joeysteele]

I really believe myself Labour would near walk or certainly win the next election, IF, and if it was brave enough to, endorse as policy PR in elections from elections post 2024 onwards.

The Cons would be driven into panic, however it's one policy they'd never even want to steal.
Because they would then know, never again would there be a majority Con government, certainly not when only taking 43% of the votes cast.

I hoped Starmer would come round to that.
Maybe he yet will.
This minority of votes cast for one Party resulting in high overall majorities so said Party can ride over all other voters is obscene as a democracy.

As it was in 2005 when Labour with only around 35% of the votes cast got a 58 overall majority then too.

Really obscene and as far from real representative democracy as can be reached in my view.

[arista]

[Gusto Brunt]

Keir Starmer is the biggest joke in UK politics. I wouldn't vote for him in a million years. His main problem is that he is empty headed. He doesn't have an original thought or policy.

He only says what he thinks people wants him to say. He looks stupid. He sounds very stupid. I always switch him off the radio and TV. Can't stand the dope.

[arista]

Today At PMQ's Starmer Demands a Vote
on Sleaze of David Cameron.




Lobbying Investigation Live in Parliament now

[arista]

Parliament
Labour Motion Vote
expected in 3 mins

[arista]

262 Ayes
357 Noes


Majority 95


Labour Plan Rejected

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

262 Ayes
357 Noes


Majority 95


Labour Plan Rejected

This result was hardly a surprise.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This result was hardly a surprise.

Yes the Numbers.


Blame Corybn
2019 General Election.

[bitontheslide]

labour were never going to win that vote

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the Numbers.


Blame Corybn
2019 General Election.

Partly.
However I blame the Con MPs, they were never going to vote for more scrutiny on the issue.

Sadly most of their voters,( in my view), will not even bother to consider that.

[bitontheslide]

i remember all to clearly the amount of dodgy deals that Tony Blair and his batch of mp's got up to, so although its in the past now, they were as guilty even perhaps more so than anyone else. The reason labour are complaining is because they have been out of power for so long they haven't been able to exploit it themselves in recent times

[arista]

Rachel Reeves Labour MP
is happy now

The Treasury Committee announced
will Drag Cameron in and Sunak.


SkyNewsHD Live

The Prime Minister will be Angry.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i remember all to clearly the amount of dodgy deals that Tony Blair and his batch of mp's got up to, so although its in the past now, they were as guilty even perhaps more so than anyone else. The reason labour are complaining is because they have been out of power for so long they haven't been able to exploit it themselves in recent times

It’s just as I said previously.. politics / politicians have been corrupt as long as I can recall ...that’s back to Harold Wilson and his cronies


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