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13-04-2021, 07:23 PM | #76 | |||
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police doing their job do not resist arrest or try to run away |
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13-04-2021, 07:26 PM | #77 | |||
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It was murder hence why people have started to resign before being pushed
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13-04-2021, 07:30 PM | #78 | |||
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13-04-2021, 07:34 PM | #79 | |||
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13-04-2021, 07:34 PM | #80 | |||
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13-04-2021, 08:18 PM | #81 | |||
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14-04-2021, 01:53 AM | #82 | |||
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are there again Live on CNN HD and other USA networks Do they not know the News? They do not care. Unlawful Assembly Last edited by arista; 14-04-2021 at 01:54 AM. |
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14-04-2021, 06:24 AM | #83 | |||
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She has 25 years service, I'm sure she has faced situations far worse than this one. If the pressures of the job were too much for her now she should have quit before being allowed on the streets with a loaded weapon. That said, I don't think its murder as there was no initial intent, but it most definitely is manslaughter. The poor family of the victim. They must be completely shattered by this.
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14-04-2021, 06:41 AM | #84 | |||
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...yeah, I would agree with that...there is responsibility for a life but it doesn’t feel like any intent would apply...her shock and panic from that bit of vid at mistaking the weapon seemed so apparent....as I said earlier, with 25yrs of veteran service, it has to be looked closely at how/why she made that error and is there accountability elsewhere as well...when a life is taken, accountability is the fundamental of the law which an officer upholds and I doubt any officer would expect ‘exemption’ from that ...responsibility and accountability is a basis of society... |
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14-04-2021, 07:41 AM | #85 | |||
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resisting arrest, running away etc etc etc does not warrant being shot dead. The key principle is proportionate force and shooting someone dead in error is not proportionate
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14-04-2021, 08:48 AM | #86 | |||
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have a look at citizen accidental gun deaths as well 10 million police and perp/citizen iterations annually the most weaponised country in the world |
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14-04-2021, 10:10 AM | #87 | |||
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A decision on whether she will be Charged or not soon. |
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14-04-2021, 10:16 AM | #88 | |||
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A senior officer of over 25 years does not and should not be making those mistakes
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14-04-2021, 10:35 AM | #89 | |||
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a mistake is a mistake as i have already shown, this type of accident occurs once a year with around 10,000,000 police public iterations it is NO excuse for looting |
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14-04-2021, 10:54 AM | #90 | |||
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if it was found to be a mistake then it would be a manslaughter (or equivalent) charge rather than murder... but its still a crime
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14-04-2021, 10:58 AM | #91 | |||
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Calling it a 'mistake' ,makes it seem like all she did was bump into him while walking down a street. The guy is DEAD .
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14-04-2021, 11:10 AM | #92 | |||
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https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/fatals.htm 2.78 million work-related deaths occur every year worldwide |
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14-04-2021, 11:12 AM | #93 | |||
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14-04-2021, 11:15 AM | #94 | |||
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If a someone, with a legal gun in america, discharged their weapon and an officer was shot and killed, they would be prosecuted. There should not be exceptions for someone who carries a badge
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14-04-2021, 11:22 AM | #95 | |||
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14-04-2021, 11:32 AM | #96 | |||
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...if a life is taken then there has to be accountability, whether it’s intentional or not...if the law itself wasn’t answerable even if it were found to be ‘human error’, then the law would fall apart because it exists with society trust and confidence in it...
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14-04-2021, 11:33 AM | #97 | |||
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i dont think anyone here or elsewhere has stated that this should not go through the normal legal proceedings as dictated by USA law
and it will just as the other mistakes of this kind have |
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14-04-2021, 11:41 AM | #98 | |||
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...and then the investigation will determine how it proceeds, I would say...
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14-04-2021, 01:23 PM | #99 | ||
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As loathe as I am to admit it, Meghan McCain brought up some good points about this story. Firstly, tasers are meant to be holstered on an officer's less dominant side while a gun is held on their dominate side, secondly, a glock has a built in safety feature which essentially makes it so you can't squeeze the trigger accidentally, you have to fire it with a knowing intention to do so. Basically, you pull the trigger, it pauses halfway and you've got to essentially 'confirm' you want to fire the gun by pulling the trigger all the way. That and a gun is noticeably heavier than a stun gun, plus stun guns are brightly coloured to help distinguish between the two.
This officer is a veteran that helped train other officers which makes, at best, such gross incompetence worrying. Either way, she must be charged, quitting the job isn't punishment enough for killing a person. |
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14-04-2021, 01:25 PM | #100 | ||
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It's always funny how racists will try to victim blame black people for being murdered by the police when white people would survive such encounters without risk of death, but you just know that if this were to happen to a white person, the same people acting like a misdemeanour is a justifiable death sentence for black people would be screeching from the rooftops for justice for a white victim, and I'm guessing the officer would be facing a heavy dose of misogyny too with her incompetence being blamed on her gender rather than her capabilities.
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