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Old 13-04-2021, 07:20 PM #451
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..............The writer and socialite (Lady C) also claimed that Princess Anne thought Meghan was "flagrantly attention seeking."

She finished: "It just absolutely turned Princess Anne off. Because she couldn't stand Meghan's constant 'uh, uh, me, me me, me'.
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Again, sounds plausible.
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...’ also has a reputation of being a gossip-monger.’....


...she’s know for writing in depth biographies of people she never met...her income is earned from her gossip....

Seems probably appropriate as to her Ammi.
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...’ also has a reputation of being a gossip-monger.’....


...she’s know for writing in depth biographies of people she never met...her income is earned from her gossip....
A very good income she makes from it too as her books are very popular. I guess her gossip must be well considered or people would have disregarded her writings long ago.
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I don't think people who read her books care about credibility.
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I don't think people who read her books care about credibility.
You know them all do you? It would be more accurate to say some won't, some will.
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You are doing it again - putting words into my mouth.
Saying I wouldn't automatically brush it off and accepting it as truth are 2 differnt things.
It sounds plausible though.
But if these..... 'sources' said the opposite, that Meghan was lovely and everything was good, would you believe them? I don't think you would. I wouldn't believe hearsay either way and I personally wouldn't give a **** either way if it weren't for the bigotry of the public and the media.

Also, I'm not doing anything but respond to what you are saying, leave the sniping out of it.
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How do you know what she actually knows...do you know her personally?
All I know is that, like so many of the press and the public, she seems to think she has insider knowledge of a family she is not part of and acts like secondhand gossip is gospel.

I know enough to not be suckered in by idle gossip.
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I'm sure Lady C was a firm favourite on here during I'm celebrity , as she was quite nasty with some of her remarks, I never liked her then don't like her now, but she was liked on here for her caustic remarks.
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when she was on imacgmooh Tibb thought the sun shone oot her backside as I recall...

There's a difference between being an entertaining figure on a TV and dealing in gossip and calling it truth. It's obvious really, it shouldn't HAVE to be said that there's a difference, but here we are.
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There's a difference between being an entertaining figure on a TV and dealing in gossip and calling it truth. It's obvious really, it shouldn't HAVE to be said that there's a difference, but here we are.
she spent the whole series dishing out gossip

and guess what - "omg kween" "we are not worthy" "yaaaasss" etc etc




you cant rewrite history....
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Because she played an entertaining role on a entertainment TV show.

It's like saying that people like Mr. Bean and that means we should take him seriously as a source of news because of it. It's complete nonsense.
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Kendra Wilkinson was a favourite on the show as well, I wouldn’t trust her royal insight either
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..............The writer and socialite (Lady C) also claimed that Princess Anne thought Meghan was "flagrantly attention seeking."

She finished: "It just absolutely turned Princess Anne off. Because she couldn't stand Meghan's constant 'uh, uh, me, me me, me'.
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Again, sounds plausible.

Oh so she's confirmed that Meghan was never liked by the Royals, her "face didn't fit" from the start and the family regarded her an an unwanted outsider and thus likely treated her as such? Good on you Lady C at least someone is being honest; the rest of the Royals (including the Queen) have vehemently denied this and said she was welcomed and loved, and that's what many on this thread (yourself included Jet) have insisted for months, but now we can see that Lady C is confirming that Princess Anne at the very least - who is very much Royal inner circle of course - felt very differently as many of us suspected.

the truth coming out at last, Harry and Meghan found themselves looked down upon and disliked and were right to get out of there.
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But if these..... 'sources' said the opposite, that Meghan was lovely and everything was good, would you believe them? I don't think you would. I wouldn't believe hearsay either way and I personally wouldn't give a **** either way if it weren't for the bigotry of the public and the media.

Also, I'm not doing anything but respond to what you are saying, leave the sniping out of it.
I'm not sniping, I'm pointing out that you don't respond to what I'm saying, you exaggerate what I say for some reason - for effect, perhaps? Can you please stop doing that.
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Oh so she's confirmed that Meghan was never liked by the Royals, her "face didn't fit" from the start and the family regarded her an an unwanted outsider and thus likely treated her as such? Good on you Lady C at least someone is being honest; the rest of the Royals (including the Queen) have vehemently denied this and said she was welcomed and loved, and that's what many on this thread (yourself included Jet) have insisted for months, but now we can see that Lady C is confirming that Princess Anne at the very least - who is very much Royal inner circle of course - felt very differently as many of us suspected.

the truth coming out at last, Harry and Meghan found themselves looked down upon and disliked and were right to get out of there.
My goodness, Princess Anne is all the Royals rolled into one now. How silly.

You should read Lady C's book before you let your imagination run amok.
She said Megsie went out of her way to charm the kilt off Charles and the headscarf off the Queen, who both welcomed her warmly (like Meghan herself said) and treated her like no other girlfriend had been treated before. And Wills and Kate visited often with the kids and brought flowers and gifts. Others have said the same thing.

I'm sure Meghan didn't turn on the charm for lesser royals though and I bet she knew Anne could see right through her and didn't even try to turn on the charm for her. Anne has long been considered the sharpest and most astute royal who doesn't suffer fools gladly (or grifters, apparently).

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Meghan has a way of turning on the charm if she finds you of use, it is said; she did it with poor ole Piers as well as past 'friends', but as soon as it inevitably goes wrong, either because their usefulness is over or they start to see through her, the relationships flounder and end. It's a well documented pattern from old friends, work colleagues, her fathers family, her mothers family, the royal family...
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Meghan has a way of turning on the charm if she finds you of use, it is said; she did it with poor ole Piers as well as past 'friends', but as soon as it inevitably goes wrong, either because their usefulness is over or they start to see through her, the relationships flounder and end. It's a well documented pattern from old friends, work colleagues, her fathers family, her mothers family, the royal family...
It's not a realistic description of an actual person in the real world though. It's fantastical cartoon villain nonsense that doesn't describe a realistic, nuanced set of circumstances. It's a childish "goodies" and "baddies" worldview that I had thought most people grew out of in their early 20's, but apparently not.
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A very good income she makes from it too as her books are very popular. I guess her gossip must be well considered or people would have disregarded her writings long ago.
Or people read them for the same reason lots of people read OK magazine and similar, they love a gossip and don't care about its authenticity.
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I'm sure Lady C was a firm favourite on here during I'm celebrity , as she was quite nasty with some of her remarks, I never liked her then don't like her now, but she was liked on here for her caustic remarks.
What's that got to do with anything?

Whether people enjoyed watching her argumentative nature on a reality television show or not has no bearing on the authenticity of her writings.
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What's that got to do with anything?

Whether people enjoyed watching her argumentative nature on a reality television show or not has no bearing on the authenticity of her writings.
Indeed. I mean, I found Stephen Bear winding folk up on CBB highly entertaining but on a personal level he might literally be one of the worst people in the world. Conversely, there have been plenty of lovely seeming people on various reality telly shows who were painfully dull. The two are totally unrelated.
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It's not a realistic description of an actual person in the real world though. It's fantastical cartoon villain nonsense that doesn't describe a realistic, nuanced set of circumstances. It's a childish "goodies" and "baddies" worldview that I had thought most people grew out of in their early 20's, but apparently not.
It isn't nonsense though, there are many accounts out there and they all can't just be disregarded because you want them to be. Taken as a whole, they are more believable than unbelieveable.
Has she good relationships with her mothers family, her fathers family, the royal family, her ex husband, (with whom she ended the marrige by sending him back her wedding ring in the post) old friends? Is it realistic to say they are all to blame and Meghan is the poor victim?
I'm referrng to her relationship history specifically, which does seem 'bad', unless someone way older than in their 20's thinks that is the norm.
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It isn't nonsense though
It is.
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Or people read them for the same reason lots of people read OK magazine and similar, they love a gossip and don't care about its authenticity.
Exactly
Some people even take soaps as real life , a few actors have been verbally attacked, just because they play an unpleasant character on screen.
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Gossip is gossip, it doesn't become less so if it appeals to a person's confirmation bias.
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