[arista]

The British Based
Israeli Ambassador
on Ch4HDnews said HAMAS are not going to stop.
They only want Jews dead.


Dezzy
with respect,
you must understand
HAMAS did not want the local Election
that was halted,
they want to keep this fight going on
forever.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

The British Based
Israeli Ambassador
on Ch4HDnews said HAMAS are not going to stop.
They only want Jews dead.


Dezzy
with respect,
you must understand
HAMAS did not want the local Election
that was halted,
they want to keep this fight going on
forever.

They're being occupied by another country, Arista. If we were invaded and occupied by the US, would you want the British to just shut up, take our 3 or 4 hours of water and electricity each day, clap as our houses are being demolished and our children are being killed?

Or would want us to fight back against the aggressor? Hamas are the only thing offering them hope at the moment, so if you want to make Hamas irrelevant, Palestine needs to be allowed to have some dignity back.

Please don't reply something like:

Sure
But Israeli man said it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

The British Based
Israeli Ambassador
on Ch4HDnews said HAMAS are not going to stop.
They only want Jews dead.


Dezzy
with respect,
you must understand
HAMAS did not want the local Election
that was halted,
they want to keep this fight going on
forever.

And all that is meaningless when more footage of Palestinian citizens being abused by israeli soldiers surface every day, when more civilians are being executed every day, where more homes are being bombed every ****ing day.

You can go ahead and be ignorant and make out that Palestine = HAMAS and that Israel are just the good guys trying to fight off terrorists but don't try to sell that **** to me, I prefer the real world.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And all that is meaningless when more footage of Palestinian citizens being abused by israeli soldiers surface every day, when more civilians are being executed every day, where more homes are being bombed every ****ing day.

You can go ahead and be ignorant and make out that Palestine = HAMAS and that Israel are just the good guys trying to fight off terrorists but don't try to sell that **** to me, I prefer the real world.

But you are parroting the propaganda from the Terror group Hamas?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

But you are parroting the propaganda from the Terror group Hamas?

If you can't tell the difference between basic empathy for the plight of innocent people and supporting terrorism then that's your own failure and your own ignorance.

[arista]

"If we were invaded and occupied by the US"

Slim we did just that
Its is in our blood.

1607–1783

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_America

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

Folks on here can't get over a year long argument, and we expect a country full of people to get over seeing generations of their families wiped out over decades?

[Parmy]

Best way I can sum this up is..

If any **** spat on my face in the street, someone would have to hold me back.

[Kizzy]

How can it be antisemitic to support Palestinians? They are semites too :/

I'm really conflicted remember the ANC and Mandela? He fought for and was considered a terrorist for years when all he wanted was freedom, fairness and rights... years from now could this be said of Hamas?

Anyone even suggesting a dialogue is vilified. How is there to be any diplomacy in the world if nobody is willing to discuss the matter?

Dress this up any way you like it's wrong, how Israel has acted and reacted is wrong, the west sitting back and ignoring this is wrong.

Violence isn't the answer however the phrase one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter springs to mind.

When nobody is speaking and your rights have been stripped away and nobody cares what's left?

[bots]

When you have a group (hamas) whose stated aim is to wipe out all jews in the world and they are a designated terrorist organisation, how can people support them.

We all feel for the plight of the palestinian people and innocents getting caught up in it on whatever side is abhorrent.

Israel are not blameless, hamas are not blameless, but until both sides agree to stop trying to kill the other you can't expect 1 side to say ok, hit me with what you got and we will just take it. There has to be agreement, and i don't think that's likely any time soon

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When you have a group (hamas) whose stated aim is to wipe out all jews in the world and they are a designated terrorist organisation, how can people support them.

We all feel for the plight of the palestinian people and innocents getting caught up in it on whatever side is abhorrent.

Israel are not blameless, hamas are not blameless, but until both sides agree to stop trying to kill the other you can't expect 1 side to say ok, hit me with what you got and we will just take it. There has to be agreement, and i don't think that's likely any time soon

People support Hamas because they hate the Jews more. They don't even have to be Israeli, just ordinary British Jews. Rachel Riley, for instance. She's a British Jew who supports Israel and according to some kind of weird consensus, she's fair game for trolls. And the very saddest thing for me is, hate speech is fine if you're aiming it at a Jew. Because, you know... Israel.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When you have a group (hamas) whose stated aim is to wipe out all jews in the world and they are a designated terrorist organisation, how can people support them.

We all feel for the plight of the palestinian people and innocents getting caught up in it on whatever side is abhorrent.

Israel are not blameless, hamas are not blameless, but until both sides agree to stop trying to kill the other you can't expect 1 side to say ok, hit me with what you got and we will just take it. There has to be agreement, and i don't think that's likely any time soon

Their foundational aim was to return Palestine to Palestinians.

You can't both sides a conflict where one country has been invaded and occupied.

No one wants to answer the question about what we would expect brits to do if we were invaded, had our homes bulldozed, our children murdered, and forced to live under apartheid whilst walled in and denied basic human rights.

A coupe of years ago, folks would never have even both-sides this issue so I guess progress is slowly being made.

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Their foundational aim was to return Palestine to Palestinians.

You can't both sides a conflict where one country has been invaded and occupied.

No one wants to answer the question about what we would expect brits to do if we were invaded, had our homes bulldozed, our children murdered, and forced to live under apartheid whilst walled in and denied basic human rights.

A coupe of years ago, folks would never have even both-sides this issue so I guess progress is slowly being made.

One country tries to protect itself in a swap of hostile enemies actually

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

One country tries to protect itself in a swap of hostile enemies actually

Can you expand on this as I'm not 100% sure what you mean.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

One country tries to protect itself in a swap of hostile enemies actually

yep

how are they protect themselves from Iran addled terrorists

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

When you have a group (hamas) whose stated aim is to wipe out all jews in the world and they are a designated terrorist organisation, how can people support them.

We all feel for the plight of the palestinian people and innocents getting caught up in it on whatever side is abhorrent.

Israel are not blameless, hamas are not blameless, but until both sides agree to stop trying to kill the other you can't expect 1 side to say ok, hit me with what you got and we will just take it. There has to be agreement, and i don't think that's likely any time soon

Who is supporting them? Go on, be less vague.

Also if you think Hamas = Palestine then you don't understand this situation at all and you really should go fix your ignorance on the issue.

You're basically confusing a terrorist group for a nation and then making out that the group's actions make the frequent human rights abuse of palestinians an acceptable response. That Apartheid is an acceptable response, that going out and executing civilians is an acceptable response and displacing others and spitting in their face is an acceptable response.

It's ****ing not, I cannot stand how people are so accepting of human rights abuse and war crimes.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Who is supporting them? Go on, be less vague.

Also if you think Hamas = Palestine then you don't understand this situation at all and you really should go fix your ignorance on the issue.

You're basically confusing a terrorist group for a nation and then making out that the group's actions make the frequent human rights abuse of palestinians an acceptable response. That Apartheid is an acceptable response, that going out and executing civilians is an acceptable response and displacing others and spitting in their face is an acceptable response.

It's ****ing not, I cannot stand how people are so accepting of human rights abuse and war crimes.

I also haven't found anywhere that states the aim of hamas is to remove all Jews from the planet, now I could be looking in the wrong places and could easily be wrong, but I'm just saying.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I also haven't found anywhere that states the aim of hamas is to remove all Jews from the planet, now I could be looking in the wrong places and could easily be wrong, but I'm just saying.

'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'

'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and

kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the

rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind

me, come and kill him.'


https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

A senior member of Gaza's Islamist rulers Hamas has encouraged
Palestinians across the globe to kill Jews

"Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with
you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and
kill them."

https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/...ians-kill-jews

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm really conflicted remember the ANC and Mandela? He fought for and was considered a terrorist for years when all he wanted was freedom, fairness and rights... years from now could this be said of Hamas?

Remember Bin Laden

Look at ISIS or the Taliban

years from now could this be said of Hamas?

remember Iran?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Remember Bin Laden

Look at ISIS or the Taliban

years from now could this be said of Hamas?

remember Iran?

There was some interaction in the 80s and 90s with the taliban wasn't there by the UK and US?

It is apparent that peace, tolerance and human rights wasnt high on their list of demands.

[arista]

Yes Slim they have lost alot of Land
Since 1946.


That changes nothing in this Fight.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Slim they have lost alot of Land
Since 1946.


That changes nothing in this Fight.

Why... that's the whole reason for the fight, what do you think they are fighting for, fun?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why... that's the whole reason for the fight, what do you think they are fighting for, fun?

It's truly bizarre isn't it?


Good to see you around.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why... that's the whole reason for the fight, what do you think they are fighting for, fun?

Yes but Israel
is not going to change.


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