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Old 18-05-2021, 08:37 AM   #26
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Maybe his next song could glorify drink driving, let the BBC promote that
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Old 18-05-2021, 09:54 AM   #27
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Ah you can always count on rap music to have the right wing revert back to their old PC ways.
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Old 18-05-2021, 09:59 AM   #28
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you can always guarantee that the left wing support and promote the most ludicrous things
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Old 18-05-2021, 10:14 AM   #29
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Old 18-05-2021, 10:29 AM   #30
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Ah you can always count on rap music to have the right wing revert back to their old PC ways.
I look to a day when songs will not be judged by their genre, but by the content of their lyrics.

It's nothing to do with it being rap "music".
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Old 18-05-2021, 11:26 AM   #31
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I look to a day when songs will not be judged by their genre, but by the content of their lyrics.

It's nothing to do with it being rap "music".
Thanks for your input that's enough cringe for today
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Old 18-05-2021, 01:23 PM   #32
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Thanks for your input that's enough cringe for today
No less cringey than pretending to think the only thing to dislike about the "song" is that it's rap
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Old 18-05-2021, 01:59 PM   #33
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Ah you can always count on rap music to have the right wing revert back to their old PC ways.
Pretty much, the 'PC gone mad' crowd certainly change their tune when it suits them.

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Bless, that was an attempt at... Something?
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Old 18-05-2021, 03:21 PM   #34
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change their tune
I see what you did there
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Old 20-05-2021, 07:08 PM   #35
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[Soundtrack to murder: For the first time,
a gangland 'drill' track is at
Number One - spreading a message of hatred
and violent revenge being echoed in
playgrounds across the country.
So why IS the BBC promoting it?]


[Stab first then talk...On flight-mode when
we walk...Chest or back we’ll rip his
face offI’ll put holes in your back.’
The lyrics are brutal and the
music is ‘drill’ — a raw and aggressive form
of British rap with accompanying videos
that feature balaclava-wearing men waving
weapons and detailing the bloody reality
of life on the streets.

For Sharon Kendall, the words of the
song Dip First (‘dip’ being slang for ‘stab’),
by a drill rapper associated with
a gang in the Rayners Lane
area of North-West London,
the lyrics were heart-wrenchingly
close to home.
Her 18-year-old son Jason Isaacs
was killed near Rayners Lane by
teenagers who stabbed him
in the back, arms and legs.]



[In Body, Russ Millions (pictured above)
and Tion Wayne rap: ‘Free Big A,
he’s too militant’ — which online followers
of the singers have interpreted to be a
reference to a gang member currently
in prison on firearm offences]


Life In The City.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...umber-One.html



Meanwhile, one of Radio 1’s best known former DJs, Tim Westwood, has posed in photographs with drill artists and gang members (one of whom, Sidique Kamara, 23, was later stabbed to death).

Westwood himself is the son of a bishop and went to private school, but has been known to speak in a pseudo-Jamaican ‘street’ patois. He is said to have partly inspired Sacha Baron’s Cohen spoof character Ali G

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By the way, Body is hook of the year. It’s no surprise it blew up with the kids on Tik Tok and went #1.
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Westwood himself is the son of a bishop and went to private school, but has been known to speak in a pseudo-Jamaican ‘street’ patois. He is said to have partly inspired Sacha Baron’s Cohen spoof character Ali G

Nothing wrong with adopting a "persona" for one's public image
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Old 20-05-2021, 09:03 PM   #38
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Nothing wrong with adopting a "persona" for one's public image
And there is nothing wrong with laughing at it.
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Old 20-05-2021, 09:11 PM   #39
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There's always been controversial music what do gangster rappers sing about? Being gangsters and pimps, guns and hos ... this is no different.

Mind you the softy lefty in me does think these can resonate in poor areas and the disaffected yoof.. so obviously I hate it
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There's always been controversial music what do gangster rappers sing about? Being gangsters and pimps, guns and hos ... this is no different.

Mind you the softy lefty in me does think these can resonate in poor areas and the disaffected yoof.. so obviously I hate it
yes and its always led to black mothers losing sons



its nothing to celebrate

its youth ignorance and poor education
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yes and its always led to black mothers losing sons



its nothing to celebrate

its youth ignorance and poor education
Mothers of all races losing son's and daughters.
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