[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Which... they aren't.

Can't wait for the results to come back and for you to look a bigger idiot than usual.

i won't believe any other results than a positive test for drugs


i have never listened to that vile piece of garbage what some of those youth call music, also the ones voting for them are drug users either then


i've muted it on the final so i wouldn't have to hear their gibberish trash

[Black Dagger]

You'll be calling them best winners ever tomorrow. Nobody takes you seriously

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

You'll be calling them best winners ever tomorrow. Nobody takes you seriously

No, i won't


i dislike that sort of music (or at least rock music in foreign language other than english)


my aunt (dad's sister) found Finland better than Italy too (and she is a huge superfan of rock and metal music in general)

[joeysteele]

Can't see them stripping them of the win.
It's done.

I wouldn't say he did do drugs either.

What attracted me to Italy's entry, and I wanted France myself with the more like Edith Piaf performance.

Italy's was like a bridge across all the styles of the songs and was different enough to stand out.
Really well performed too..
So for me a deserved win.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Can't see them stripping them of the win.
It's done.

I wouldn't say he did do drugs either.

What attracted me to Italy's entry, and I wanted France myself with the more like Edith Piaf performance.

Italy's was like a bridge across all the styles of the songs and was different enough to stand out.
Really well performed too..
So for me a deserved win.

they seemed like pathetic amateurs on that stage

an insult for Italian music in general

2015, 2018, 2019 were more deserving years for them when they should've won with more real music rather than joke act rock troll trash

[LeatherTrumpet]

Italy was a dreadful oh look how ironic and 70s we are and how we are oh so aggressive and shouty as its "heavy metal" tired cliche

but i guess those who voted had no idea about glam rock so it seemed edgy

[Toy Soldier]

From the video, honestly, I am fairly certain he's snorting something. I don't really care all that much, though.

In general I agree with Nicky about the music though - I'm not a fan of the band and I do like rock/metal. Finland was very poppy but it's decent for what it is... Italy I just found to be extremely derivative. It sounded like RHCP, Led Zep, White Stripes, even a bit of RATM, all kind of balled up and served bland with no sauce.

I'd add that it would have been 10x better if they'd replaced the weak bass with a heavier low-tuned guitar riff but I think they wanted to keep it softer for the mass audience appeal. Go hard or go home guys.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Italy was a dreadful oh look how ironic and 70s we are and how we are oh so aggressive and shouty as its "heavy metal" tired cliche

but i guess those who voted had no idea about glam rock so it seemed edgy

It's not any sort of metal, it's cookie-cutter rock. And Finland was pop metal/nu-metal. Graham referring to both as "heavy metal" made him sound about 90 .

[Toy Soldier]

[Toy Soldier]

And honestly, for Finland get a female to do the chorus vocals and you've got yourself an Evanescence anthem .

[Braden]

I actually think the Finnish song/group is better than Italy's. I wish they'd split the vote more.

There's something so annoying and pretentious about the Italian group but I can't even articulate what it is.

[Braden]

However, I don't think the lead singer was snorting anything and I presume the people accusing him of doing so have never even snorted a line of coke before in their life.

I'm living for France going in and saying they should be disqualified if the test comes back positive, though

[UserSince2005]

Also can we talk about the dickprint?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

And honestly, for Finland get a female to do the chorus vocals and you've got yourself an Evanescence anthem .

seriously TS, i'm sure you'd like their band Nightwish, it has a dutch female vocalist Floor Jansen

or our Within Temptation, ever heard of them from my nation? with female singer Sharon den Adel

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

seriously TS, i'm sure you'd like their band Nightwish, it has a dutch female vocalist Floor Jansen

or our Within Temptation, ever heard of them from my nation? with female singer Sharon den Adel

I have a track from each on my main Spotify playlist Nicky . "Faster" (Within Temptation) and "Nemo" (Nightwish).

[Liam-]

There’s another angle of the video being circulated and he was very clearly not snorting anything, but if you can’t win with a dull song, go the bitch route and try to steal it I guess

[UserSince2005]

Why are they holding off with the drug test? its been almost two days now and he still hasnt had it.

Most tests only detect cocaine in the system for a maximum of 3 days, you could come back negative after 12 hours even.

Strap the bastard down and take bloods, now!

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There’s another angle of the video being circulated and he was very clearly not snorting anything, but if you can’t win with a dull song, go the bitch route and try to steal it I guess

Source tho? Like... if it's circulating, circulate it!

[Toy Soldier]

Actually I've seen a higher res zoomed-in video and on balance, I don't think he is doing anything, or at the very least, there's enough doubt there to make the accusation very flimsy. Thinking about it logically, they'd have to be extremely stupid to be sat doing drugs AT THE TABLE in full view, and would surely be more discreet?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Can't see them stripping them of the win.
It's done.

I wouldn't say he did do drugs either.

What attracted me to Italy's entry, and I wanted France myself with the more like Edith Piaf performance.

Italy's was like a bridge across all the styles of the songs and was different enough to stand out.
Really well performed too..
So for me a deserved win.

There is so much prejudice about rock bands.
Just because of their look, some people assume that they're drug addicts.
Maneskin are actually really nice and a fantastic band.
I would love to see them play live.

[Shaun]

The whole thing is a case of the audience's imaginations running away with them.

The very idea of one of the frontrunners (who is going to be on camera, a lot, live, surrounded by hundreds of organisers and fellow competitors) snorting coke is just laughable. I almost wish it was true, just for the sheer audacity of it... rock and roll never died indeed

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Actually I've seen a higher res zoomed-in video and on balance, I don't think he is doing anything, or at the very least, there's enough doubt there to make the accusation very flimsy. Thinking about it logically, they'd have to be extremely stupid to be sat doing drugs AT THE TABLE in full view, and would surely be more discreet?

Exactly, they aren't stupid.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The whole thing is a case of the audience's imaginations running away with them.

The very idea of one of the frontrunners (who is going to be on camera, a lot, live, surrounded by hundreds of organisers and fellow competitors) snorting coke is just laughable. I almost wish it was true, just for the sheer audacity of it... rock and roll never died indeed

Damiano is very upset by the accusations.
Him and the rest of the band are very anti drugs.

[Nicky91]

https://www.france24.com/en/culture/...leged-drug-use

french minister says Italy could be disqualified over alleged drug use

[Black Dagger]

Ofc he would say that x