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'Fake news' no longer: Facebook lifts ban on suggesting COVID-19 was man-made after
Biden orders intel agencies to probe whether coronavirus leaked from Wuhan lab

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it's what makes most sense, why cover up something that was a natural occurence
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It’s all rather bizarre isn’t it

Labour plus press / media now quoting everything Cummings said ...as GOSPEL !!

I’d expect nothing less from Kier Starmer
but shouldn’t the press be careful what they’re writing / printing ??

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Dominic cummings can remember word for word what many different people have said, but cant remember if he ever attended a cobra meeting.


The mans full of ****.
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Didn’t believe him then and have no reason to believe him now.
Prior to him leaving, any mistakes that had been made he was part of.
Nasty bitter man.

I couldnt agree more.

No Government was prepared for this Pandemic...no matter who was in Government mistakes would have been made and lives would have been lost as a result. I can pretty much guarantee that other countries have made the same mistakes by not reacting quicker. Mistakes were made, sadly they cost lives but none of it was deliberate.
What I cant stand is the behaviour of this pathetic man. The pathetic stories he told when he broke lockdown...he sat there and lied to EVERYBODY and now as he dishes the dirt and 'squeals' on his former party and finally admitting to lying to us all over breaking lockdown....he has nothing going for him whatsoever...he is just a nasty, lying bitter man.
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this bitter man is tomorrows chip paper
Looking back is how you learn to not repeat the same mistakes in the future.
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Dominic cummings can remember word for word what many different people have said, but cant remember if he ever attended a cobra meeting.


The mans full of ****.
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Yes ,Zizu,The press are useless at conveying the truth,as i said when it comes to harry and Megan the press are scum now all of a sudden its fact,lol,the bloke lied and that from his own mouth,he cannot be trusted, plus he was sacked so is out for revenge,imo.
The fact you can't tell the difference between celebrity gossip and political coverage says a lot, it's really quite grim you think that gossip columns about a celeb couple are the same as political reporting.

If someone who was in the inner circle is alleging such serious accusations, it's worth paying heed to, worth investigating. Choosing to ignore it because it doesn't bode well for you beloved Boris is choosing to be ignorant.
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The term for him is: disgruntled employee.
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The media have been on a mission all through the pandemic, anyone that denies that is kidding themselves

There will be an inquiry. People will have a chance to air their views. Cummings has a clear agenda and everything he utters should be framed with that in mind
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The media have been on a mission all through the pandemic, anyone that denies that is kidding themselves

There will be an inquiry. People will have a chance to air their views. Cummings has a clear agenda and everything he utters should be framed with that in mind
What mission is that? Because from what I've seen, the major publications have been all too easy on the tories considering all the **** ups and outright corruption we've seen so far. If this was another party, the media would have crucified them by now.

I trust Cummings as far as I could throw him, but it makes little sense to go up there and lie through his teeth when common sense dictates that people will be looking for reasons to discount him from the off due to their Tory loyalty/indoctrination. There's enough reason to investigate his claims and as long as it's not a kangaroo court that handles it, I'd be willing to bet that a lot of his claims won't be completely off base, whether that will have any affect on the tory voters is another issue.
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The only one that will have traction is the care homes one
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Now its Cummings mate
Gove MP is in the Committee in Parliament.

Both news channels
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Gove MP is in the Committee in Parliament.

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Oh crumbs here's another one.
I'm surprised Cummings had NOTHING to say about this dinosaur.
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It's funny how all the weird looking ones get all the flack.

Gove
Johnson
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Why has his story changed?
He has admitted he lied did he not? So I'd say his story has changed, yes.
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He lied, the PM knew he lied, which makes boris complicit in the lie.
Not fit for office imo.
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He lied, the PM knew he lied, which makes boris complicit in the lie.
Not fit for office imo.
Oh Kizzy, Johnson does nothing wrong though you know.
Yeah right.

Of course Johnson is complicit in all the deceit and lies of his Ministers and advisors.

However he's also the perfect example of it because he's given them his perfect example of it too.
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It was grim looking at my facebook when all this was going on, so many people were angry, not at the accusations but at the fact that they considered Cummings a 'grass'.

They were unbothered about all the wrongdoing, they were just upset he brought light to all of it. Seeing stuff like that just reaffirms everything that I believe this country has become, weak, subservient, spineless.
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He lied, the PM knew he lied, which makes boris complicit in the lie.
Not fit for office imo.

Yes but
so many do not care about Cummings the Grass
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so many do not care about Cummings the Grass
The truth will out..

What's all this 'grass' rubbish? If there has been wrongdoing by the PRIME minister, the highest seat in politics. Then that surely needs addressing?

Otherwise public faith in politicians and the establishment in general to be above reproach is built on nothing.
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Default Matt Hancock has not answered the important questions on nursing homes

On Dominic Cummings’s infamous photo of a No10 white board, one can see,
referring to a scenario in which the NHS was overwhelmed, the words: “Who
do we not save?” The answer, one of

the great scandals of the pandemic, turned out to be care home residents.

Yesterday, Matt Hancock was grilled repeatedly over Mr Cummings’s accusation that the Government did not put a shield
around care homes as promised – and it was claimed that the Health Secretary

lied to the Prime Minister about patients being tested before they were discharged back into them. For 24 hours, Mr Hancock
talked about being willing to give answers without straightforwardly supplying one.

On March 19, 2020, hospitals were required by the NHS and the Department of Health and Social Care to start discharging as many patients as they could in

order to free up beds. Between mid-March and mid-April, 25,000 people were released into care homes: there was no
requirement to test. Many other countries made a similar mistake, it is true – nevertheless, the Office for National Statistics
later calculated that care homes

accounted for roughly half of our excess deaths between March 7 and September 18. The policy was reversed on April 15.


Mr Hancock’s half explanation of this horrific blunder is that testing would have been nice but that Britain did not have the
capacity for it yet. In fact, testing was not the only problem: early advice given to the care sector was remarkably lax and the
Government took its time to advise against visits by

those who were “generally unwell”. All that aside, even if the testing capacity was not in place in hospitals, the question still
stands: why on Earth did the NHS release potentially sick patients, some of the most vulnerable, back into the one place
where the virus was guaranteed to thrive?

Mr Hancock appeared reluctant to be drawn on whether he assured Boris Johnson that patients were being tested at that
precise moment or would be in the future – it seems it was more of an aspiration than a fact – but the public, and particularly
those who lost loved ones, has a right to know. If the attitude was that the lives of one set of patients could be placed in
jeopardy in order to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed – something that, in the event, did not happen – that would
have totally inverted the basic principles of healthcare.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...nursing-homes/

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The truth will out..

What's all this 'grass' rubbish? If there has been wrongdoing by the PRIME minister, the highest seat in politics. Then that surely needs addressing?

Otherwise public faith in politicians and the establishment in general to be above reproach is built on nothing.
To hard-line Con supporters Kizzy the truth is anything that doesn't get at Johnson and the government.

If Cummings is a grass, a liar , a fantasist, who was the man who employed him and raised him up.
What does that make of his judgement.

The story when he broke lockdown rules was fully supported by Johnson and Ministers were rolled out to defend Cummings.

What does that say about them that they'd support a fantasist, a liar and a grass.

The greatest one for me though.
Is when the media were character assassinating the Milibands deceased Father, then after that Corbyn too.
Then the press must have something.
No condemnation of that from Con supporters.

Odd that.

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It was grim looking at my facebook when all this was going on, so many people were angry, not at the accusations but at the fact that they considered Cummings a 'grass'.

They were unbothered about all the wrongdoing, they were just upset he brought light to all of it. Seeing stuff like that just reaffirms everything that I believe this country has become, weak, subservient, spineless.


Following on from that .. I just wish the sentencing wasn’t so ridiculously lenient in this country


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