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Old 06-06-2021, 07:51 PM #1
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Thumbs up Weak Gareth Southgate turns England fans against him.

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Good for Gareth. A manager should support the team if it’s what they want.
More people clapped last week to drown out the morons that decided to boo.
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i abhor racism in football, but i dont like the connection that the gesture has to BLM, so i would prefer not to see it. Sport should never be political and BLM is political. Racism is not political however, they need to come up with some other method of supporting kick it out rather than BLM
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Good for Gareth. A manager should support the team if it’s what they want.
More people clapped last week to drown out the morons that decided to boo.
I totally agree smudgie..
There's sadly still a some racism around sport it seems.
On football terraces particularly.
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…I love how Marcus Rashford simplifies these things like he did with the school meals for children…they’re only complicated and political when they’re made complicated and political…it’s an anti racism/discrimination gesture simply and there is no politics involved in that unless people choose to see that…
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It's a shame that BLM seems to have the monopoly in standing against racism, and there's not a gesture or something which doesn't have their stink on it. Surely there's a way they can silently protest racism without associating with rioters and politics?

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…I love how Marcus Rashford simplifies these things like he did with the school meals for children…they’re only complicated and political when they’re made complicated and political…it’s an anti racism/discrimination gesture simply and there is no politics involved in that unless people choose to see that…
We have had the Kick it out campaign for years and the players wear it on their shirts.

and its not about racism in football (of which there is precious little in the UK)

this has been used to justify the erroneous decision to "take the knee" in retrospect

I go to a lot of football games at what could be seen as a right-wing club and i never hear or witness racism and our captain and player of the year is black

i am quite sure that is replicated at every ground in the UK
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It's a shame that BLM seems to have the monopoly in standing against racism, and there's not a gesture or something which doesn't have their stink on it. Surely there's a way they can silently protest racism without associating with rioters and politics?



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Nicky has bad MP's in his nation.
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Yes Good Points from Nigel

BLM are a Marxist crazy group
(check their website)

This is going on World News
all around the world.

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i abhor racism in football, but i dont like the connection that the gesture has to BLM, so i would prefer not to see it. Sport should never be political and BLM is political. Racism is not political however, they need to come up with some other method of supporting kick it out rather than BLM

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Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.
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Debated on BBC2HD
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"They need to find another way of doing it"



Brendon Clark-Smith MP

"Black Lives Matter is a political movement and also
promotes some quite eccentric and extreme policies
such as abolishing the nuclear family
and defunding the police...fans....are
just sick and tired of being preached
and spoken down to. They are there to
watch a football match, not to be
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Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.
Kneeling on the ground achieves nothing, it is nothing more than performative allyship. The only thing that happens is the association with a questionable group pisses people off.

The only people who weren't behind Rashford during the school meals thing were the kind of idiots who say stuff like "can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em".
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"They need to find another way of doing it"



Brendon Clark-Smith MP

"Black Lives Matter is a political movement and also
promotes some quite eccentric and extreme policies
such as abolishing the nuclear family
and defunding the police...fans....are
just sick and tired of being preached
and spoken down to. They are there to
watch a football match, not to be
lectured on morality."
Sums it up well enough.
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Yes not a MP.


Nicky has bad MP's in his nation.
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Baudet is no longer in our parliament thankfully


and well Wilders, although he is hardcore far-right pvv, he sometimes does say some good things, during the corona regulation debates for example
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Tbh they should be taking a knee on twitter and the like, not on a football pitch.
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Imagine Marcus Rashford, a man who has ensured some of the poorest families in the country can feed their kids during this pandemic captains his country for the first time ever. He leads his players out with great pride to take a knee, only to be booed by absolute idiots in the crowd just before they begin an international tournament.

I honestly hate English football fans sometimes.
Hes ensured we can feed the poor families kids, not the poor families feeding their own kids
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