[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they are called teachers

....and probably dealing with the same kind of response from kids caught on their phones in class

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

....and probably dealing with the same kind of response from kids caught on their phones in class

EXACTLY

[parmnion]

It's obviously not working having them allowed at school. So it's worth trying to see what happens.

But after reading everyone's comments, I must admit after being staunchly for it, I'm actually a bit torn between the 2.

[AnnieK]

Like it or not, mobile technology is a massive part of daily life for kids and adults alike.

I agree that the use in the classrooms if not part of a lesson is a distraction but to ban them completely seems unenforceable to me.

Schools will be fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out...

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Like it or not, mobile technology is a massive part of daily life for kids and adults alike.

I agree that the use in the classrooms if not part of a lesson is a distraction but to ban them completely seems unenforceable to me.

Schools will be fighting a losing battle trying to keep them out...

I am sure it is not beyond the wit of any school to make sure kids dont have a phone in class. Just because it will be difficult is not a reason not to do it.

I very much doubt that phones are an issue for bright and able kids but ARE an issue for those who struggle at school

[parmnion]

Adults are not permitted to use them at many workplaces across the uk.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Adults are not permitted to use them at many workplaces across the uk.

and employers are within their rights to impose this (in every workplace)

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am sure it is not beyond the wit of any school to make sure kids dont have a phone in class. Just because it will be difficult is not a reason not to do it.

I very much doubt that phones are an issue for bright and able kids but ARE an issue for those who struggle at school

How will they make sure though? We were not allowed fags in school but a lot of people got them in, we were not allowed to pass notes, but we did. Kids having distracting things in school is not a new thing and its something schools have never been able to control. Kids get drugs, knives and all sorts of contraband in....how will they be able to stop phones? Are they going to physically search every pupil, install some kind of scanner?

A ban in the classrooms I agree with although its never going to be a reality I fear.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and employers are within their rights to impose this (in every workplace)

Oh absolutely, I don't think they should be used in school but I am saying logistically I don't know how it will be enforced

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

How will they make sure though? We were not allowed fags in school but a lot of people got them in, we were not allowed to pass notes, but we did. Kids having distracting things in school is not a new thing and its something schools have never been able to control. Kids get drugs, knives and all sorts of contraband in....how will they be able to stop phones? Are they going to physically search every pupil, install some kind of scanner?

A ban in the classrooms I agree with although its never going to be a reality I fear.

hopefully, any respectful parent will make sure they dont leave for school with one

parenting 101

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

hopefully, any respectful parent will make sure they dont leave for school with one

parenting 101

Same applies though....any respectful parent would make sure their kids don't leave with a packet of Bensons....but they do. Parents often have to leave before kids do.

Kids will always he sneaky....I know I was and I'm sure you were too

Growing up 101

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Same applies though....any respectful parent would make sure their kids don't leave with a packet of Bensons....but they do. Parents often have to leave before kids do.

Kids will always he sneaky....I know I was and I'm sure you were too

Growing up 101

Any parent who sends their kids to school without a mobile phone is negligent imo.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…no worries, he’ll miss his school buss, Annie as he’ll be queueing up to get his phone back at the end of the day…and we know those school buses have to leave on time …mind you, he probably wasn’t marked in as being at school anyway and marked as being absent while he was queueing up trying to hand his phone in, in the morning…

He's a manc, so it's more likely he's in the Arndale, shoplifting

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He's a manc, so it's more likely he's in the Arndale, shoplifting

I've taught him better than that.......


He'll be in Selfridges and Harvey Nics

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Same applies though....any respectful parent would make sure their kids don't leave with a packet of Bensons....but they do. Parents often have to leave before kids do.

Kids will always he sneaky....I know I was and I'm sure you were too

Growing up 101

That is a very poor reflection on parents, i hold them to a higher bar

with respect

[AnnieK]

You don't mean it with respect at all

As a parent yourself you know as well as anyone else that kids will be kids and even the best parents will never know everything they get up to.

My parent's were stricter than most and it was hard to get anything past my mother especially but I did.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You don't mean it with respect at all

As a parent yourself you know as well as anyone else that kids will be kids and even the best parents will never know everything they get up to.

My parent's were stricter than most and it was hard to get anything past my mother especially but I did.

and its up to adults to protect them and make sure they get a good education

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and its up to adults to protect them and make sure they get a good education

What do you think removing mobile phones will actually do? It's not going to make poor performers into model students or perform better, it's not going to stop bullying, it could even make some situations worse.

If you think that sending a kid to high school is bad parenting, I will wear that badge with pride. I will ensure he knows its not to be used in school and I will be pissed if he ever did but if he needs me or to call for help for any reason, I'm not leaving him without means.

[parmnion]

Most bullying is done via mobile phone these days.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Most bullying is done via mobile phone these days.

Remove the mobile and what will happen? Kids walking home can't ring someone to tell them they are being followed by the bullies...and get a kicking

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

What do you think removing mobile phones will actually do? It's not going to make poor performers into model students or perform better, it's not going to stop bullying, it could even make some situations worse.

If you think that sending a kid to high school is bad parenting, I will wear that badge with pride. I will ensure he knows its not to be used in school and I will be pissed if he ever did but if he needs me or to call for help for any reason, I'm not leaving him without means.

ask a teacher

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

ask a teacher

You're the one who seems to have the answers though so I'm asking you.

You said you hold parent's to higher standards and schools should have the wit to do it so you must have your reasons/opinions.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You're the one who seems to have the answers though so I'm asking you.

You said you hold parent's to higher standards and schools should have the wit to do it so you must have your reasons/opinions.

correct

i am not throwing in the towel because kids wont like it

that role is being performed by you?

and we are all wondering why?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

correct

i am not throwing in the towel because kids wont like it

that role is being performed by you?

and we are all wondering why?

Who is "we all" there is only really you and I in this conversation?

I've asked how you think it will improve education....that's all?

I am not throwing in any towel From a safety point of view in today's world, phones are a godsend. I would not leave home alone without my phone....why should I make an 11 12 /13 year old etc go take a bus to high school with no means of contacting someone if there is a problem?

As a responsible parent, I would call that safeguarding but if you call that throwing in the towel fair enough. I'm happy enough to wear that badge as I said

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They should be in bags and turned off in school, or alternatively there should even be a “storage room” for them during the school day (mini lockers) but insisting on them being left home simply isn’t going to work. It’s 2021 and it’s neither sensible nor safe for teenagers to be out miles from home without any means of contact. It’s not like there are pay phones they can use.

If they implement this my daughter will be doing the same as she has been for the last year and a half at primary school; phone on silent, in a hidden inside zip pocket of her bag. She’s thankfully not dumb enough to get it out in school or blab about it to her pals.

Agreed. Many need them with them, but shouldn't be fannying through the day with them..