[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Meanwhile, there's people with real problems.

I think saying that Mental Health is not a real problem is actually despicable

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think saying that Mental Health is not a real problem is actually despicable

Sure.

[Tom4784]

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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's good to see most customers keeping their masks on. I will be keeping mine on while travelling on public transports and going into shops and such.

I just hope people don't abandon it after a few days. Someone at work's caught Covid after having both their jabs, so now isn't the time to throw caution to the wind.

This isn’t the dream I signed up for ..


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[bitontheslide]

when 80% of the adult population is double vaccinated, then the majority that end up in hospital will now be double vaccinated. The vaccines provide 90+% protection against hospitalisation, which means that a proprtion of vaccinated people will end up in hospital, but look at the graphs between now and january, look at the numbers. They are just not in the same league

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This isn’t the dream I signed up for ..

Look up Base Rate Fallacy in regards to vaccines

[rusticgal]

People get the flu jab…and some still get flu. I can only imagine that once you are vaccinated your body will fight it off more efficiently..

[GoldHeart]

I guess all we can do is take breaks with the mask off when nobody is around ,stay hydrated.

I actually got myself comfortable masks,but I know in the heat it will feel stuffy. But just have to find ways to deal with it.

[Livia]

I went shopping yesterday and everyone I encountered was either behind a screen or wearing a mask. I think most people are quite sensible.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Look up Base Rate Fallacy in regards to vaccines

Yes. Although, also, no.

Yes there are huge mathematical misunderstandings at play here and this is the risk of presenting a population with a bunch of raw data when the majority of that population has no real understanding (or often any understanding) of stats.

But also no they shouldn’t look up base rate fallacy, because looking up stats concepts, if they have no basic understanding of stats, is frankly just going to confuse them even more.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This isn’t the dream I signed up for ..


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Oh FFS.

Another load of ****e.

Cause they will be as most are now vacinnated.

What about underlying health conditions though? Or those who are in for something completely different but have caught it?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes. Although, also, no.

Yes there are huge mathematical misunderstandings at play here and this is the risk of presenting a population with a bunch of raw data when the majority of that population has no real understanding (or often any understanding) of stats.

But also no they shouldn’t look up base rate fallacy, because looking up stats concepts, if they have no basic understanding of stats, is frankly just going to confuse them even more.

I don't think people need to know the ins and outs of stats to understand they are just that, stats..... Stats which are wildly misconstrued. I'd just say it's common sense.

Ohhh, more people have tested positive for COVID,,,, yes but more people are using and having to use the app....

More people are dying from COVID,,,,what the ones who died of something completely different?

Double vaxed makes up 80%...well, yeah, shock horror considering that's probably the % of people already vacinnated.

It's scaremongering to the extreme whilst children die of starvation, die of flu, die of poverty, heart attacks, cancer.

Whilst stats have a place, of course they do, they are just that.

What's more damaging is the media who don't portray the full picture and paint the picture to fit their own narrative.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

I went shopping yesterday and everyone I encountered was either behind a screen or wearing a mask. I think most people are quite sensible.

Yes. Most people still wearing masks in shops and public transport.

[Ashley.]

It's lovely to see people still being courteous even in places where mask-wearing is optional. And it does not cause harm to anyone. Two for one.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I don't think people need to know the ins and outs of stats to understand they are just that, stats...

You'd think, but as Ramsay pointed out Base Rate Fallacy is causing huge misunderstandings with current Covid cases.

Half of the world's sociological problems also come down to an extremely common "many = most" non-sequitur as well; that is to say, people see "a lot of people" holding a belief (hundreds of thousands, even millions) and because of poor abilities to comprehend scale, they believe that "a lot of people" holding a belief means that "most people" must hold that same belief. MASSIVELY at play in Trump conspiracies. "How do you explain that Trump has hundreds of thousands of people coming to rallies but didn't win?" etc. Plays a huge part in confirmation bias for beliefs already held, too - people hear thousands of people agreeing with them and will happily say, "See? Look at all of these people. Most people must agree with me.

Plays slightly into the "can't be wrong" fallacy too... the idea that "[X number of people] can't all be wrong!" ... when yes, of course, they can, and [X+1 number of people] might actually disagree.

[AnnieK]

I've just been to a funeral.....most people still wore a mask inside during the service, but not all.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Neil Oliver says when it comes to Masks compassion is a 2-way street. He also says there is a new divisive religion - the Church of the NHS..

Youtube video

.... says the guy who always wears a scarf around his neck .. in the studio ..

What’s that all about ?


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