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Old 21-07-2021, 06:33 PM #6701
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…this is just heartbreaking…he’s such a deceiver…







Brussels has insisted it will not renegotiate the EU’s Brexit deal with the UK after London inflamed tensions by launching a bold push to overhaul trading rules for Northern Ireland.

The renewed conflict came as it emerged British prime minister Boris Johnson wanted to renegotiate the so-called Northern Ireland protocol agreed with Brussels in 2019, even though it has only been in force since the beginning of the year.

Lord David Frost, Johnson’s Brexit minister, published a paper that proposed dismantling key parts of the protocol, which governs post-Brexit trade with Northern Ireland, including stripping the European Court of Justice of its role in policing it.

Most checks at Irish Sea ports on goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland would be replaced by a new system largely based on the honesty of traders, with spot checks behind the border.

Maros Sefcovic, European Commission vice-president in charge of relations with the UK, said Brussels “will not agree to a renegotiation of the protocol”. Weeks or months of diplomatic wrangling lie ahead.






The issue could also increase tensions between US president Joe Biden, who describes himself as Irish, and Johnson. Brendan Boyle,*a Democratic Congressman and member of the Irish caucus on Capitol Hill, said “the British government has tried to evade its responsibilities under the protocol”.







“Their latest statement and proposed changes just continues this trend and serves only to further destabilise Northern Ireland,” he said.

Frost insisted Britain wanted to make the protocol work more effectively, but left open the possibility of London suspending it if Brussels refuses to accede to the demands. “We cannot go on as we are,” he said.

The post-Brexit status of Northern Ireland was identified by Frost as “the main obstacle” to building a productive, new UK-EU relationship. He wants to settle the issue permanently by rewriting the Johnson Brexit deal.

Frost is looking to “freeze” the current situation regarding Northern Ireland pending a negotiation which he admits would require reopening the treaty signed by the prime minister as part of his Brexit deal.

That would include indefinitely extending “grace periods” — waivers on border checks at Irish Sea ports on items such as chilled meats and parcels — until a new settlement is reached.

The grace periods are due to expire at the end of September, meaning that London and Brussels have only a matter of weeks to settle their fundamental differences over the future of the protocol.

Frost also wants the EU to suspend legal action against the UK over the operation of the protocol so that any negotiations on a new deal could proceed in a less fraught atmosphere.

Under the protocol, all goods shipped from GB to NI must follow the EU’s rules for customs and agrifood products, resulting in checks on the Irish Sea. The Brexit deal sought to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland.

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…oh, not because of the pingdemic, then….the staff shortages for that company…?…but because European workers have left the U.K…?….
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…oh, not because of the pingdemic, then….the staff shortages for that company…?…but because European workers have left the U.K…?….
It's never been solely about the pingdemic, which is just exposing the problems of brexit. There's a reason everything is being blamed on the pingdemic...
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the whole order fulfilment process is fine tuned to be the most cost effective, and when something disrupts that whether it be the pindemic are basic lack of staff/drivers then it soon goes to rat. We are suffering both at the moment making it dodgy at best
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It's never been solely about the pingdemic, which is just exposing the problems of brexit. There's a reason everything is being blamed on the pingdemic...

…I’m just reading atm and it seems quite layered…?…but yeah, around 60,000 distribution drivers short because of a return to Europe …and U.K. drivers haven’t been able to complete training as replacements because of COVID restrictions factoring in…
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Does anybody still believe this was a good idea (serious question). What’s the best thing about this?
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i'm fully convinced we will be back in the eurozone within a couple of years, it will just be done under the radar and under a different name
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the driver shortage is a perfect storm of 25,000 delayed tests, some exam current drivers have to do which costs them 5 days of work as well as 400.00 and Brexit
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anyone who didn't vote at the time and would have voted remain is just as culpable as those who voted out in my view
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anyone who didn't vote at the time and would have voted remain is just as culpable as those who voted out in my view
Weeell... maybe, you can't make assumptions about what higher voter turnout would have resulted in, plenty of people who didn't bother to go out and vote would have voted Leave if their mates were voting Leave. There will have been many fully drinking the kool-aid from their couch, but not actually fussed enough about it to go and vote on the day.
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Weeell... maybe, you can't make assumptions about what higher voter turnout would have resulted in, plenty of people who didn't bother to go out and vote would have voted Leave if their mates were voting Leave. There will have been many fully drinking the kool-aid from their couch, but not actually fussed enough about it to go and vote on the day.
The comment is only made in reference to me, as the same comment has been made throughout numerous threads recently. I didn't vote in the referendum and yet I'm an outspoken critic of it.

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Weeell... maybe, you can't make assumptions about what higher voter turnout would have resulted in, plenty of people who didn't bother to go out and vote would have voted Leave if their mates were voting Leave. There will have been many fully drinking the kool-aid from their couch, but not actually fussed enough about it to go and vote on the day.
there were an awful lot of young folk who didnt bother to vote in the ref. The majority of them supported remain, so it's not inconceivable that the result could have been changed by their vote

Anyway, my opinion is that nothing is forever, and we will be back in the customs union under a different name within 10 years
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Ian Botham, the former England cricketer known for legendary clashes with Australia, has been appointed UK government trade envoy to the country.

Lord Botham, along with Baroness Hoey and several MPs, have been made trade envoys to boost British business interests around the world.

International trade secretary Liz Truss tweeted the former all-rounder would "bat for UK business down under".

Lord Botham reportedly once said "Aussies are big and empty - just like the country", whereas he was affectionately known in the country as Guy the Gorilla.

He is one of 10 new trade envoys.

Baroness Hoey has been appointed to Ghana, while Stephen Timms MP has been assigned to Switzerland and Lichtenstein, and Sir Jeffrey Donaldson MP to Cameroon, in addition to his role as trade envoy to Egypt.

David Mundell MP has been appointed to New Zealand, Mark Eastwood MP to Pakistan, Marco Longhi MP to Brazil and Conor Burns MP to Canada .

Lord Walney has been assigned to Tanzania, while Felicity Buchan MP has been appointed to Iceland and Norway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3j3z7j2zdeo

How can that possibly fail Slim?
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Ian Botham, the former England cricketer known for legendary clashes with Australia, has been appointed UK government trade envoy to the country.

Lord Botham, along with Baroness Hoey and several MPs, have been made trade envoys to boost British business interests around the world.

International trade secretary Liz Truss tweeted the former all-rounder would "bat for UK business down under".

Lord Botham reportedly once said "Aussies are big and empty - just like the country", whereas he was affectionately known in the country as Guy the Gorilla.

He is one of 10 new trade envoys.

Baroness Hoey has been appointed to Ghana, while Stephen Timms MP has been assigned to Switzerland and Lichtenstein, and Sir Jeffrey Donaldson MP to Cameroon, in addition to his role as trade envoy to Egypt.

David Mundell MP has been appointed to New Zealand, Mark Eastwood MP to Pakistan, Marco Longhi MP to Brazil and Conor Burns MP to Canada .

Lord Walney has been assigned to Tanzania, while Felicity Buchan MP has been appointed to Iceland and Norway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3j3z7j2zdeo

How can that possibly fail Slim?
yeah how on earth can that trade with australia go wrong
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