[arista]

[Cherie]

Researchers behind the React trial, which has been tracking the disease throughout the pandemic, said that even if double-jabbed people come into contact with someone who has Covid-19, only one in 25 (3.84%) will go on to catch it themselves.

And cases are generally milder among double-jabbed people who do get infected, they added.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/double-jab...230100474.html

[arista]

[John Eyers, 42, of Southport, Merseyside
Father-of-one had thought he would only
have a 'mild illness' if he got Covid-19
and didn't want a vaccine
But he died after suffering from infection
and organ failure,
telling consultant he regretted not getting jab]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-Covid.html

[LeatherTrumpet]

I got my Vaccination confirmation letter today from the NHS confirming iv been double jagged and when

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I got my Vaccination confirmation letter today from the NHS confirming iv been double jagged and when

take that TS

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

take that TS

There have been some concerns that elderly people won't have internet access so they're sending out letters to those considered vulnerable.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There have been some concerns that elderly people won't have internet access so they're sending out letters to those considered vulnerable.

THAT IS UNTRUE

I have internet access - my Demon Dial-up has never let me down

[arista]

In a few weeks time.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

In a few weeks time.

I’ll be happier when it’s all teenagers tbh


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’ll be happier when it’s all teenagers tbh


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If the uptake in the 18 to 30 cohort is low what makes you think it will be high in teenagers

[Niamh.]

Luke's getting his 2nd jab next week and he's 17. I think the uptake here in younger people is high enough

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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If the uptake in the 18 to 30 cohort is low what makes you think it will be high in teenagers

Technically, up until 18 it’s parents choice.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If the uptake in the 18 to 30 cohort is low what makes you think it will be high in teenagers

Wishful thinking .. the more the safer


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Technically, up until 18 it’s parents choice.

I'm not sure it is actually, maybe under 16's? When Luke got his first jab we didn't have to give our consent anyway

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[Cherie]

yes you are right Neem parental consent will not be required for 16/17 year olds

[Toy Soldier]

You are correct it is 16. There’s also some stuff about “extreme circumstances” that mean parental consent can be overruled… but Id be very concerned if they chose to implement that en masse, as it’s absolutely not what it’s intended for (it’s intended for things like a blood transfusion being refused on religious grounds, if the child will die without it).

[Niamh.]

12-15 year olds will be offered the Moderna Vaccine here next week

[bitontheslide]

US news network CNN has sacked three employees for going into an office without having been vaccinated against Covid, US media say.

It is one of the first examples of a US firm firing staff for breaching a company vaccination mandate.

It is legal in the US for firms to require employees to be vaccinated.

Many large firms - including Facebook and Google - say they will require employees to be vaccinated when offices fully re-open in the months ahead.

CNN chief Jeff Zucker mentioned the dismissal in a company memo sent on Thursday and seen by several US media outlets.

Vaccination is mandatory for anyone reporting in the field, working with any other employees or going into an office, he is quoted as saying in the memo.

"Let me be clear - we have a zero-tolerance policy on this," Mr Zucker, chairman of news and sports for WarnerMedia, is quoted as saying.

In May the US government said it was legal for employers to require staff attending the workplace in person to be vaccinated against Covid-19.

Major airlines Delta and United Airlines are requiring new employees to show proof of vaccination, while investment bank Goldman Sachs is requiring its employees to disclose their vaccination status, although does not require staff to be vaccinated, AP reports.

President Biden has ordered two million federal employees to show proof of vaccination or be subject to mandatory testing and mask-wearing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58112125

[Cherie]

2/3 of over 18s to 30s have had at least one jab

[LaLaLand]

Got my second jab in the morning - at last!

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

The UK has ordered 35 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which will be delivered in the second half of 2022.

The government said it was preparing for a programme of Covid boosters to protect the most vulnerable this year.

Health and Social Care Secretary Sajid Javid said the move was intended "to future-proof our vaccine programme".

The UK has now ordered more than 540 million doses of eight different Covid vaccines.

Four have so far been approved for use in the UK.

The deal with Pfizer means the UK has ordered more doses of that Covid vaccine - 135 million - than any other.

The NHS was given the green light to start planning third booster doses for the over-50s, after interim advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) in early July, and Mr Javid recently said the programme would start in September.

However, the UK's vaccine committee is still to give its final advice on whether a booster programme ahead of this winter should proceed and who should be included.

The JCVI is thought to be waiting for better data on how long protection from the first two doses of the vaccines lasts.

It's likely people who are immunosuppressed, with weakened immune systems, will receive a booster jab even if all over-50s - around 30 million people - do not.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58307215

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2021/10/27/member...s-unvaccinated

Netherlands: Outbreak Management team are against separate measures for unvaccinated

Andreas Voss, professor of infection prevention, called it a "difficult decision." "I believe that society should not be held hostage by a minority, but I am also against any form of discrimination. I want everyone, including people who decided not to get vaccinated, to be able to participate in society."

All the OMT members NU.nl spoke to agreed on how to prevent the coronavirus from spreading further - adhere better to the restrictions in place.

"Keep at least 1.5 meters apart and work at home if possible. Stay home if you have symptoms and get tested. Use a QR code for certain risky activities. These are all measures that I think have hardly been observed," Kluytmans said. "The virus won't just go away, not even with vaccination. It will become manageable, but the problem will not go away completely. This virus has been added and will certainly continue to take its toll every year."

"I am not in favor of it at all," medical microbiologist Jan Kluytmans said. "It is very much against individual freedoms." Separate measures will also be challenging to implement and enforce. "Half of the unvaccinated live spread out across the country, 10 percent are in religious communities, and 40 percent are in the large cities. Then you have to do something in Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and The Hague. But how are you going to implement it, and what are you going to achieve with it?"

Virologist Menno de Jong thinks that different measures will "polarize us too much." Diederik Gommers of intensive care association NVIC says that he makes "no distinction" as a doctor. "You also have to be careful not to put groups against each other."

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good points here


honestly even those double jabbed, or now with a booster, you can still get ill from covid

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://nltimes.nl/2021/10/27/member...s-unvaccinated

Netherlands: Outbreak Management team are against separate measures for unvaccinated




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good points here


honestly even those double jabbed, or now with a booster, you can still get ill from covid

If the double jabbed are eager to get a booster then does that mean that they don't believe in the vaccine and does that make them the real anti-vaxers?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

If the double jabbed are eager to get a booster then does that mean that they don't believe in the vaccine and does that make them the real anti-vaxers?

no, because most vaccines have to be topped up at some point, like the flu jab every year or tetanus every 10 years