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14-08-2021, 08:50 AM | #76 | |||
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Is it known if the other victims were connected to him in any way?
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14-08-2021, 08:52 AM | #77 | |||
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This is heartbreaking.
The father trying to save his little girl
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14-08-2021, 09:04 AM | #78 | |||
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14-08-2021, 09:05 AM | #79 | |||
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14-08-2021, 09:07 AM | #80 | ||||
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You keep saying “intel” It’s “incel” You don’t even know the word, you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, this problem is massive, you apparently aren’t interested or don’t care (why would you, I suppose, you have the privilege of it not affecting you at all) but by denying this problem or refusing to even believe that there is one, you are part of the problem. So no, I don’t want to debate this topic with you. You also say he "says he didn't identify as intel" (I assume you meant incel) From the article; Quote:
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14-08-2021, 09:18 AM | #81 | ||
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Just to clarify this part: I did not say that “terrorism mainly targets women”. I said that incel groups mainly (pretty much exclusively) target women with their hatred and violence. And that when these people take action, it is terrorism. I know that it isn’t “in the eyes of the law” - THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Swept under the carpet. Hopefully not for much longer. You countered that by pointing out that religious terrorist groups are largely indiscriminate in their attacks, for some reason, which has absolutely no bearing on what I said. |
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14-08-2021, 09:28 AM | #82 | |||
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Anyone who goes out of their way to terrorise people or places are terrorist
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14-08-2021, 09:37 AM | #83 | ||
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I fully agree with this; any hatred-fuelled attack that has the goal of causing misery and midnless destruction is clearcut terrorism. Whether or not the terrorist has mental health problems is completely besides the point; as I said above, with the perpetrators of Islamic Extremist attacks - if you could take one alive and dig around for a while - you would almost certainly discover that their mental health is in tatters... because that's part of the radicalisation process. It's very difficult to radicalise mentally healthy people whether that's into an Islamic cell or an Incel group. "Are terrorists in general mentally healthy" is a totally separate debate; and the quick answer for me is "well obviously not" however that does not mean they are pathologically mentally ill. "Poor mental health" and "mental illness" aren't the same thing.
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14-08-2021, 10:15 AM | #84 | |||
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, to quote you Go and read PACE. Last edited by ThomasC; 14-08-2021 at 10:17 AM. |
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14-08-2021, 10:18 AM | #85 | ||
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Anyway, I'm bored of this forum generally.
Will follow Ammi. Ta, ta |
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14-08-2021, 10:35 AM | #86 | |||
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There have been at least 3 random knife attacks in London which have not been deemed terrorist in nature but due to mental health issues so that’s not exactly true
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14-08-2021, 10:44 AM | #87 | |||
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Some reports say he was on the Autistic Spectrum.
That would explain alot. |
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14-08-2021, 10:44 AM | #88 | |||
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14-08-2021, 11:12 AM | #89 | |||
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14-08-2021, 11:43 AM | #90 | |||
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14-08-2021, 11:50 AM | #91 | |||
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14-08-2021, 05:09 PM | #92 | |||
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14-08-2021, 09:59 PM | #93 | |||
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It seems he had issues going back for some years so who thought it was an idea to give him use of a gun
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14-08-2021, 10:33 PM | #94 | |||
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The definition of terrorism according to the Internet.
"The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." The guy admits that he was an Incel, and then eventually kills 5 people with three of them being women. Plus he did use violence and intimidation against civilians. Basically whichever way you look at it it's terrorism, and in my unofficial way of classifying terrorism, going around and shooting five people dead at what seemingly appears to be random with four of his victims should count as terrorism imo. But under the UK law we aren't following the official definition of terrorism if we don't class this guy as a terrorist.
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14-08-2021, 10:44 PM | #95 | |||
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15-08-2021, 12:38 AM | #96 | |||
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Absolutely disgusting
And the gunman sounds like a lunatic geeez |
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15-08-2021, 05:33 AM | #97 | |||
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15-08-2021, 05:34 AM | #98 | |||
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15-08-2021, 09:00 AM | #100 | ||
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Well obviously not actual "incels" (at 12 you would hope that they are ALL celibate) but yes at least two boys with YouTube/TikTok accounts that are, essentially, full of frustration, hatred and ranting directed at women/girls. That's the worrying thing really - I doubt they're on redpill/blackpill forums themselves but the rhetoric is filtering down into "the mainstream". MRA stuff ("It's men who have it worst/women are unsympathetic") is absolutely ALL OVER TikTok for example. Most of them aren't the "hardcore" ones you'd find on 4chan or Reddit but they're picking up these ideas from other Social Media, and the terms/language being used is always the same, so it's coming from the same source (mostly Reddit).
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