[LeatherTrumpet]

Ben and his take on this

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

I don't think it's just "leftists" that agree with abortion LT.

[bitontheslide]

it's religion plain and simple, together with the need to subjugate. Anyone trying to claim otherwise is lying

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think it's just "leftists" that agree with abortion LT.

In the video he is taking it to specific "leftists" and their arguments so I dont think it means all people who oppose abortion but i did not write it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In the video he is taking it to specific "leftists" and their arguments so I dont think it means all people who oppose abortion but i did not write it.

I'll listen to the video later, can't atm

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ben and his take on this

Youtube video

He didn't do a very good job, he's outlined that Texas has used a legal technicality/loophole to create an anti-abortion mechanism that circumvents the established legality of such laws. That it was possible to do so is a failure of the US legal system, but it doesn't "end" any argument against it at all. The way it's been done, as described by Shapiro, is dodgy as ****.

[Tom4784]

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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's religion plain and simple, together with the need to subjugate. Anyone trying to claim otherwise is lying

When we had the abortion referendum here a few years back, I found from speaking to people about it beforehand that those who were the most "pro life" were people who had no clue or experience in what taking responsibility for raising a child and bringing a child into the world really meant. A lot were men too. I was shocked by how many much older women (mass goers) voted pro choice.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In the video he is taking it to specific "leftists" and their arguments so I dont think it means all people who oppose abortion but i did not write it.

He describes how the legal arguments people are making against it don't fly because of the way Texas has (deliberately) set this up using loopholes that quite blatantly fall outside of the way one would normally expect such laws to operate (i.e. they abuse civil liability proceedings to create a pseudo-enforcement mechanism that circumvents the Roe vs Wade precedent but achieves the same outcome in effect).

He's succeeded in signposting me to the fact that the situation is actually worse than what I had assumed.

[Alf]

Yikes!

Please tell me nobody on here agrees with this psychopath?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yikes!

Please tell me nobody on here agrees with this psychopath?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yikes!

Please tell me nobody on here agrees with this psychopath?

Whole load of nonsense even asking these questions, as absolutely no one on earth is campaigning or wanting murder made legal, so I expect she just refused to play her stupid games.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yikes!

Please tell me nobody on here agrees with this psychopath?

Depends if you think she was legitimately answering the questions or just dismissing the interviewer. Common sense would say the latter.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Depends if you think she was legitimately answering the questions or just dismissing the interviewer. Common sense would say the latter.

She looked fairly legitimate, I don't know her character so I just have to take her as meaning it at this point.

[UserSince2005]

don't mess with texas bitch.

[Oliver_W]

Does it matter if she was "real" or if people agree with her? Some people think abortions should be allowed at 7+ months, or that the world was created by a skydaddy ... Neither belief has any validity, but also both beliefs are held by a lot of people.

[bitontheslide]

i don't think the woman being asked the question is blessed with much grey matter and the other side did that interview to stitch her up and put womens rights down. It's so obviously a setup

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i don't think the woman being asked the question is blessed with much grey matter and the other side did that interview to stitch her up and put womens rights down. It's so obviously a setup

All she had to say was "no I don't agree with that" to the question that already born children should be terminated, it's not difficult to say that to that question, but she answered the question by saying more or less the opposite to that. Her answer was that she believes a woman should have the right to take a child's life even at two years old.

[bitontheslide]

she was singled out and used for propaganda, and its obvious to me she has a learning problem

[Cherie]

She’s should have said you are just being silly now and shut the interviewer down, the interviewer got what she wanted

[ThomasC]

Backwards country who also still allows death penalty.

Abortion is a women's choice imo as long as it is done for the right reasons.