[LeatherTrumpet]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

am i the only one that thinks its a bit odd that the chief medical officer is justifying a medical procedure on the basis that it might reduce school disruption a bit. Therefore, no medical justification

He must be paid? These jabs should be going overseas

[bitontheslide]

i think this is why the government decision is tomorrow, they wanted to see what the public reaction would be to this

[parmnion]

Of course they should be offered it.

[AnnieK]

I'm glad my son is too young yet to get it.....I wouldn't be allowing him to be jabbed even if he were old enough.

[bitontheslide]

i think Witty has blown a lifetime of credibility in 10 minutes

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think Witty has blown a lifetime of credibility in 10 minutes

He really did look uncomfortable though....He is just a Government puppet now

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no they dont as they dont mingle like adults do in the wider population

schools have been shown to be lower than workplaces for infection spread

Covid: Schools aren't infection hubs, says public health boss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58418767

https://www.moneycrashers.com/preven...-germs-school/







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[AnnieK]

That's an American study though Zizu...so not comparable really as we don't know what covid measures they have in their schools. Yes, kids can catch and transmit...schools will always be some risk but so is every other office block and workplace.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

That's an American study though Zizu...so not comparable really as we don't know what covid measures they have in their schools. Yes, kids can catch and transmit...schools will always be some risk but so is every other office block and workplace.

True but we’re vaccinating those who are in offices / work places ..


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[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think this is why the government decision is tomorrow, they wanted to see what the public reaction would be to this

Thats gonna be tricky when Boris's mum has just passed away.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

True but we’re vaccinating those who are in offices / work places ..


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You can still catch it from vaccinated / unvaccinated people and have the same viral load though....no matter what you vax status is.

If you had children still in the 12-15 year age group....would you be making the decision to have them vaccinated with limited knowledge, possible side effects and limited use without seriously doubting why you were doing it?

I think all adults should get a vaccine if they are able to, I'm not as comfortable deciding what should go into children's bodies when they are not fully grown and its a newish vaccine

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[bitontheslide]

the vaccine reduces an adults chance of becoming seriously ill from covid. That is the only context that is of value. Kids don't get seriously ill from it, so they shouldn't be getting vaccinated. I think the uptake for kids is going to be really low

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the vaccine reduces an adults chance of becoming seriously ill from covid. That is the only context that is of value. Kids don't get seriously ill from it, so they shouldn't be getting vaccinated. I think the uptake for kids is going to be really low

Honestly I reckon the reason they’re doing it is because it’ll convert many “very mild symptoms” cases into “symptomless” cases, symptomless cases are far less likely to test, and thus it looks on paper like a reduction in cases (when it’s actually fewer symptomatic cases, more asymptomatic cases) which in theory does nothing to stop spread and might even increase spread (because symptomless infected people are more likely to spread as they carry on as normal).

High school kids are supposed to regularly LF test but in my experience very few do it. We’ve been trying to do it twice weekly as recommended but totally forgot last Wednesday, so she was only tested on the Sunday last week and then Sunday this week. But from what I gather, most kids she talks to don’t bother at all and have only had PCR tests if they have a cough or sniffle.

To be fair though I’m convinced LF tests are useless anyway.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You can still catch it from vaccinated / unvaccinated people and have the same viral load though....no matter what you vax status is.

If you had children still in the 12-15 year age group....would you be making the decision to have them vaccinated with limited knowledge, possible side effects and limited use without seriously doubting why you were doing it?

I think all adults should get a vaccine if they are able to, I'm not as comfortable deciding what should go into children's bodies when they are not fully grown and its a newish vaccine

Children have been being successfully vaccinated for all manner of diseases though .. why is this any different


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Children have been being successfully vaccinated for all manner of diseases though .. why is this any different


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because it provides zero medical benefit to the child, but does have a risk of vaccine side effects. That's a huge difference compared to other vaccines that they get.

Are people seriously going to accept the CMO saying that the benefit of this vaccination is against some unquantifiable measure of school disruption.

I am absolutely disgusted with him

[arista]

Downing Street having a cabinet meeting
right now.

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