[arista]

SkyHistoryHD The Rise and Fall Trade Centre on now

Showing why it was attacked.
And the First plane was travelling into it at 500 miles an hour


They're up to the 2nd plane attack.

[Saph]

[arista]

Gold and Silver
was removed after the Buildings fell
The Gold Bars were safe
in lower floors
It took many Armed Trucks
24/7 to remove them.

[arista]

The 2 Planes
Broke into centre Steel
with Aeroplanes Fuel heating it up.

The Metal Columns started to pull inwards
then the building went down


All due to the Planes Fuel
on Fire

[Saph]

I watched a really good doc on 4od last night called 170 minutes or something idk which was made just using filmed footage

[Alf]

Mayor Rudy Giuliani's press conference from 20 years ago.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Saph

I watched a really good doc on 4od last night called 170 minutes or something idk which was made just using filmed footage

Yes was on More4HD
with a few added updates.

[9/11 102 minutes that changed America]


All footage from the local people
showed a shocking angle

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Saph

I watched a really good doc on 4od last night called 170 minutes or something idk which was made just using filmed footage

I’m not sure if it’s the same one I’ve seen, but there’s one with footage taken from another tall building in NY (by a group of students I think?) and they’re filming when the 2nd plane hits. That moment and their terrified reaction is very hard to watch, like a punch in the stomach. Really chilling.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Yes i'v not been to memorial bit i have photo's of myself on top one of the towers , not sure but i think it was tower 2.

One of the most shocking days for the world ... ever.

I've been in them too hijaxers, you had to actually see them to believe the height of those towers, they were iconic ,hard to believe they are no longer there and the memorial is just beautiful and serene.

[Saph]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I’m not sure if it’s the same one I’ve seen, but there’s one with footage taken from another tall building in NY (by a group of students I think?) and they’re filming when the 2nd plane hits. That moment and their terrified reaction is very hard to watch, like a punch in the stomach. Really chilling.

yeah that was part of it

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I’m not sure if it’s the same one I’ve seen, but there’s one with footage taken from another tall building in NY (by a group of students I think?) and they’re filming when the 2nd plane hits. That moment and their terrified reaction is very hard to watch, like a punch in the stomach. Really chilling.

yeah, i remember seeing that, it was harrowing

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[James]

Seeing the footage brings back how horrible it was. I saw a drama-documentary some years ago about United 93, the flight that was downed by the passengers fighting back, and it was really emotional hearing them make phone calls to their loved ones.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by James

Seeing the footage brings back how horrible it was. I saw a drama-documentary some years ago about United 93, the flight that was downed by the passengers fighting back, and it was really emotional hearing them make phone calls to their loved ones.

yes i listened to them again yesterday

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

now 21 years on

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...nt-faced-trial

After 21 years, justice has yet to be attained in the case against the plotters of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and a year of plea negotiations and canceled hearings at Guantanamo Bay has pushed any potential trial back even further .

Negotiations between prosecutors and defense attorneys at Guantanamo Bay could reportedly result in guilty plea deals in which the death penalty is taken off the table for 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four co-defendants. Top Republicans have criticized any such possibility.

In the more than two decades since the terror attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, the five men said to be responsible for the planning and execution of the plot have yet to stand trial.

One key unresolved question is the admissibility of confessions obtained by the FBI after the CIA subjected them to “enhanced interrogation techniques” — called “torture” by some.

“At a bare minimum, we are at least one year away from trial,” Air Force Col. Matthew McCall, the presiding judge for the 9/11 case, said in September 2021, shortly after taking over the case . Hearings were held around the 20th anniversary of the attacks last year, but the case has made little pretrial progress since then. The co-defendants appeared in court a year ago for the first time since February 2020 due to delays caused by the COVID-19 pandemic . There were also pretrial hearings held in November 2021, but no 9/11-related hearings since then.

McCall said in late August that he would travel to Guantanamo Bay the final week of September “to convene in open, closed, or ex parte sessions as needed.”

The military commissions calendar shows that 9/11-related hearings were canceled in January, March, May, June, July, and September. There are pretrial hearings canceled in October and scheduled in November.

The delays came as leading Republicans slammed any effort to take capital punishment off the table for Mohammed and his co-defendants.

“Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his accomplices planned the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks [and are] responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 Americans,” Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH) told the Washington Examiner in March. “It is unconscionable that military prosecutors would even entertain the idea of a plea agreement that removed the possibility of the death penalty.”

Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX), the top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told the Washington Examiner: "If this case doesn't justify the death penalty, what does?"

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE FROM THE WASHINGTON EXAMINER

Mohammed, dubbed "KSM" and described as “the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks” in the 9/11 Commission Report, was a close ally of Osama bin Laden and was repeatedly waterboarded in numerous sessions while in U.S. custody. Mohammed is being tried alongside four co-defendants: his nephew, Ammar al Baluchi, who sent money transfers to 9/11 hijackers inside the United States; alleged hijacking trainer Walid bin Attash; 9/11 facilitator Ramzi bin al Shibh; and al Qaeda money man Mustafa al Hawsawi.

The delay comes as the Biden administration has continued to say it wants to shut down detainee operations at Guantanamo Bay. Approximately 780 total suspected terrorists are known to have been detained at Guantanamo Bay since 2002, and it is believed that 36 remain, according to the Guantanamo Docket tracker.

Republicans have sought to block Biden's efforts to shut the facility down.

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[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Trump only cares about Trump so is anyone really surprised.

But when Bush was in that classroom back in 01 and when he was told a plane had hit, he still stayed in the classroom awkwardly . That's why some people think he already knew about the attack.

What was he suppose to do, panic?

I don't get people's logic sometimes. I'm not on about you, but just people generally

I didn't realise it was 20 years on, but funnily enough I watched most of the ATC recordings from that day.

Absolute utter confusion and unpreparedness as to what was going on, but I suppose it was the first time anything like this has ever happened. At one point, one person when given the order to scramble f-16s questioned whether it was an exercise. One even said that a lot of real world stuff was going on considering it was an exercise. There was just utter disbelief.

It got so bad that fighter jets were given the order that if any further planes were not responding to ATC, they were to be shot down. That is some very high clearance ****.

https://youtu.be/DYBhgEm3j7A

[arista]

Start of that was the French Documentary Team
filming that Fire Crew Working normally
then the Edits from the 2nd plane.


Clever Evil Attack
as those planes had so much Fuel
burning so much metal


And Well done
those brave passengers that took
back control
if the 3rd plane
that crashed before any attack

[Gusto Brunt]

I remember where I was back then.

Me and my mum were in the bathroom looking out the window at our neighbour cemeting a wall, when in the other room Sky News was on and there was a news flash.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

What was he suppose to do, panic?

I don't get people's logic sometimes. I'm not on about you, but just people generally

I didn't realise it was 20 years on, but funnily enough I watched most of the ATC recordings from that day.

Absolute utter confusion and unpreparedness as to what was going on, but I suppose it was the first time anything like this has ever happened. At one point, one person when given the order to scramble f-16s questioned whether it was an exercise. One even said that a lot of real world stuff was going on considering it was an exercise. There was just utter disbelief.

It got so bad that fighter jets were given the order that if any further planes were not responding to ATC, they were to be shot down. That is some very high clearance ****.

https://youtu.be/DYBhgEm3j7A

Are you referring to Bush ? . He was in a classroom in a school ..when he was told about the 9/11 attack and he just sat there .

There's 2 theory's on this
He either already knew this would happen
Or there was a sense of not wanting to panic the children.

Either way I still find his reaction ODD , as in that moment surely you'd still react . I understand the disbelief & not knowing what to do . But no matter what Bush Jnr always looked confused when he was president.

So depending on whether you believe the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 or not . If you'd just been told that they'd been a 'terrorist attack ' on the world trade centre, and you're the president of the United States .....would you rush out the class room making phone calls . Or would you still try and stay calm just because you're in a room full of children? .

Like I said I think he purposely stayed mellow as not to worry the children, and to find out more information on the attack . But going by Bush's behaviour overall when he was president , i don't know what was going through his head . Obviously it would be a difficult & horrible thing to process whoever was told let alone the president.

As for Trump

I don't think he's ever acknowledged the anniversary of 9/11 . As he has zero compassion . He made Bush look almost competent.

[arista]

Now 22 years on

America Reading out the names of the Dead

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Sad day for all those families

We have been to the Memorial Site in NY, its a very serene spot particularly the little church that remained intact despite the Towers falling around it

Again Today 2023/9/11

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

Good Video

That First plane Early Morning
Full of Fuel
into the Tower



Evil Weapon

That day the Terrorists Won

[Nicky91]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/08/two-...r-attacks.html

was on the news here in my nation this morning


two more 9/11 victims identified with help of new technology


the victims names are kept private on the request of family members

[arista]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I remember where I was back then.

Me and my mum were in the bathroom looking out the window at our neighbour cemeting a wall, when in the other room Sky News was on and there was a news flash.

Yes the only UK News Station
to call it as Terrorism.


Sad BBC struggled