[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Can I just proudly state that I’m not a part of any offsite tribe or PM clique . I get PM’s from various people occasionally and respond pretty openly, and it’s from a smattering of people that span the various “forum groups”.

Good News

Keeps you sharp.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

The racist clique of older members who seem to revel in being hateful is why.

Literally every good member who didn't want to be part of what the forum has now become is now on Discord which is essentially full of TIBB members who have been driven away. (Ammi is also on there)

If you want a link and you're not a hateful person, PM me

I bet there is no more than a dozen of you all licking each others asses. Bor - ing!

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by jet

I bet there is no more than a dozen of you all licking each others asses. Bor - ing!

More like 60, but try again.

[Tom4784]

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[jet]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

More like 60, but try again.

60 TIBB members from Serious Debates who have been driven away you said?
Right.

[Cherie]

There are groups within groups too...and it’s a power trip as they can ban anyone who doesn’t agree echo echo echo

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'That group is horrible! I'm gonna keep talking about it because it's soooo horrible, but I'm not obssessed! It's not like I want an invite to it and I'm pissed off because I know no one will invite my racist ass to it!'

Exhibit A.

That post right there is a good example of what has gone so wrong in Serious Debates.

[Glenn.]

At least it’s moderated properly

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

At least it’s moderated properly

That seems fairly unlikely to be honest.

[Tom4784]

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[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, they ban racists so I can see why that would upset you.

Exhibit B

Another post right there is a good example of what has gone so wrong in Serious Debates.

[GiRTh]

This thread seems to be descending into an attack/defence of another forum.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well, they ban racists so I can see why that would upset you.

Dezzy's definition of racism - someone who doesn't agree with all my very forceful opinions.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This thread seems to be descending into an attack/defence of another forum.

It succinctly answers the initial question though. Multiple examples of the banal tribalism that’s emptied out the forum over the last 3 or 4 years.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It succinctly answers the initial question though. Multiple examples of the banal tribalism that’s emptied out the forum over the last 3 or 4 years.

Agree.

Mods should pin this thread as an example of the issue.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That seems fairly unlikely to be honest.

Two people who were friends with the admin were banned for being racist. I’d say that was quite fair

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Two people who were friends with the admin were banned for being racist. I’d say that was quite fair

How do you know these people were friends with admin?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Agree.

Mods should pin this thread as an example of the issue.

Agree.

There are two clear "sides".
Both with faults but neither see their own.

[James]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

The racist clique of older members who seem to revel in being hateful is why.

Literally every good member who didn't want to be part of what the forum has now become is now on Discord which is essentially full of TIBB members who have been driven away. (Ammi is also on there)

If you want a link and you're not a hateful person, PM me

Can I have a link please?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Two people who were friends with the admin were banned for being racist. I’d say that was quite fair

I find it generally unlikely that anything run by groups of people who come from the same ideological standpoints can ever be truly “moderate”, and my idea of “good moderation” is simply that people don’t get vicious, don’t mock, and argue topics in good faith. That last part is what TiBB is lacking sadly. But again though you can see that trend all across politics, the media, even academics these days. Point scoring and groupthink and being “on the right side” takes centre stage, no one is bothered about arguments being well-reasoned or logical.

From what I’ve seen of the offsite groups they’re heavily skewed towards one type of ideology.

I might be wrong, I’ve not actually been on them.

[Tom4784]

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[Kate!]

Right so I wasn't going to post on here but I see my name mentioned in a negative way so I'm here to comment.

Sheriff....what form did this stalking take? What exactly did Glenn allegedly do? I am not at all aware of this.

As for why Tibb is a morgue well I agree with all Dezzys posts.

I just hope and pray that things may turn around here and will stick around on and off in that hope.

And Douglass....stop your stirring the pot about Chuff.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I find it generally unlikely that anything run by groups of people who come from the same ideological standpoints can ever be truly “moderate”, and my idea of “good moderation” is simply that people don’t get vicious, don’t mock, and argue topics in good faith. That last part is what TiBB is lacking sadly. But again though you can see that trend all across politics, the media, even academics these days. Point scoring and groupthink and being “on the right side” takes centre stage, no one is bothered about arguments being well-reasoned or logical.

From what I’ve seen of the offsite groups they’re heavily skewed towards one type of ideology.

I might be wrong, I’ve not actually been on them.

Did you not like the look of the initiation ceremoy?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Can we leave the nauseating false equivalency out of it? It's incredibly self-serving.

I haven’t seen anyone suggest that the two sides are equivalent, just that they exist.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

Did you not like the look of the initiation ceremoy?

The only reason I’m here at all is that I like old-fashioned forums . I have little to zero interest in other forms of social media, or chat rooms (which is what discord is, as far as I can tell?)