[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The issue is the same as ever; just because there is no overall shortage, doesn't mean there hasn't been a knock-on effect on supply/demand, panic buying at first was needless but once it's snowballed, it's no longer irrational. It *is* difficult to get fuel in some places, because people are buying it all up. When someone who needs to drive for their commute (e.g. my wife is a 40 minute drive to work) and they've just driven past two fuel stations that are out of fuel, you can hardly blame then for filling the tank when they reach the 3rd one.

For us we haven't actually done anything out of the ordinary, we fill 'til the pump clicks every Sunday evening and that's exactly what we did this week, but for people who normally only put in a set amount in £ or fill to half ... ... I can't blame them filling up a bit more than usual at the moment.

i dont blame people for filling up either if they need their car for work, however for people whose cars are sat on driveways full to the brim ..just in case; and people filling water bottles with extra I do blame them

There was a guy on our next door app offering people the opportunity to siphon off fuel from his cars ...on the face of it a very generous gesture but he had obviously been out filling up his 'cars' with no obvious need to.

[Livia]

People are stupid sometimes... Stupid and selfish.

I'm interested to see how the recruitment of foreign drivers goes, considering the massive shortages of HGV drivers right across Europe.

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Livia

People are stupid sometimes... Stupid and selfish.

I'm interested to see how the recruitment of foreign drivers goes, considering the massive shortages of HGV drivers right across Europe.

No way are any drivers coming over for literally 3 months, especially if they have a job already, for starters they would need to find accommodation. That is fine for seasonal workers where accommodation is already on site at farms and such, this is not going to happen

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No way are any drivers coming over for literally 3 months, especially if they have a job already, for starters they would need to find accommodation. That is fine for seasonal workers where accommodation is already on site at farms and such, this is not going to happen

Your sig is frightening me....

Nice to see you x

[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by Livia

Your sig is frightening me....

Nice to see you x

You too Liv

[michael21]

Time for borris to act fast

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

i dont blame people for filling up either if they need their car for work, however for people whose cars are sat on driveways full to the brim ..just in case; and people filling water bottles with extra I do blame them

There was a guy on our next door app offering people the opportunity to siphon off fuel from his cars ...on the face of it a very generous gesture but he had obviously been out filling up his 'cars' with no obvious need to.

Was he charging £20 a gallon ?




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[Alf]

Ain't some people just stupid?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by michael21

Time for borris to act fast

I think he's still Just in the main looking at it.
Or looking into who he can blame for it and not him and his lot.

[Alf]

[Christmas Dynamo]

just been out driving for 2 hours and passed a tesco (2 cars filling up on way and 1 on way back plus tanker filling it) The 2 independents i passed had one and 2 cars on way out and 2 plus one plus tanker filling up. No queues or nowt

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

just been out driving for 2 hours and passed a tesco (2 cars filling up on way and 1 on way back plus tanker filling it) The 2 independents i passed had one and 2 cars on way out and 2 plus one plus tanker filling up. No queues or nowt

Outside Glasgow/Edinburgh I don't think Central Belt has really been panic buying? like I said, one place was out of diesel late on Sunday, haven't seen any other signs of an issue, haven't seen any queues. But then, there were also no empty shelves the last two times there's been "supermarket panics". Lower population density helps, I suppose.

[AnnieKristmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

just been out driving for 2 hours and passed a tesco (2 cars filling up on way and 1 on way back plus tanker filling it) The 2 independents i passed had one and 2 cars on way out and 2 plus one plus tanker filling up. No queues or nowt

I think that shows the difference though - if I had been out driving for 2 hours here, I would have passed around 20+ stations. On my 20 minute journey to work I pass an Asda, Tesco, Esso with Tesco Express and a Morrisons plus 2 small independent stations - all of them this morning either had ridiculous queues (Morrisons and Asda), were out of fuel or for Emergency Service vehicles only.

I think one small indie one was open on the same road as my office as the traffic was horrific and my colleague said she thinks it was queues to get into the petrol station causing it.

Definitely depends on where you live how crazy its been

[arista]

The Big Fight

Video on the fight
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ting-fuel.html

['Knife' and fist fights on forecourts amid urgent calls
from Tories to bring Army in to drive fuel tankers Now ... but
Grant Shapps insists UK
is 'seeing first signs
of stabilisation' (but begs motorists to stop panic-buying)]

[Tom4784]

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[Cherie Christmas]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think that shows the difference though - if I had been out driving for 2 hours here, I would have passed around 20+ stations. On my 20 minute journey to work I pass an Asda, Tesco, Esso with Tesco Express and a Morrisons plus 2 small independent stations - all of them this morning either had ridiculous queues (Morrisons and Asda), were out of fuel or for Emergency Service vehicles only.

I think one small indie one was open on the same road as my office as the traffic was horrific and my colleague said she thinks it was queues to get into the petrol station causing it.

Definitely depends on where you live how crazy its been

Its centred around the big cities which is crazy due to there being public transport

[arista]

Johnson PM is Speaking on Both news
channels.

Recorded at Downing Street
both news channels



Not being questioned well.
(BBC Newsnight reporter)

Asked on Petrol Crisis
he claims it is being stabilised.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Johnson PM is Speaking on Both news
channels.

Recorded at Downing Street
both news channels



Not being questioned well.
(BBC Newsnight reporter)

Asked on Petrol Crisis
he claims it is being stabilised.

It's not stabilising from his government's efforts.

He's procrastinated just hoping it improves.

Waste of time asking him anything you just get a load of s...e from him.

[bots]

it was always going to stabilise without any action as the panic buyers all had full tanks of petrol. Sometimes its actually better to wait and let it sort itself out. The only action that was needed was priority access for essential workers, which was done

[joeysteele]

We shouldn't have been in this position at all, the government's been warned for months this could happen.
It did nothing.

Plus it's only now after near a week, that essential workers are to get priority in some places.

I'm not going to let this incompetent government off the hook on this.
They've been abyssmal.
Grant Shapps shocking.

They've run away again, again refusing to be interviewed on TV about the issue.
Unbelievable they are getting excused for this unnecessary mess and chaos.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

We shouldn't have been in this position at all, the government's been warned for months this could happen.
It did nothing.

Plus it's only now after near a week, that essential workers are to get priority in some places.

I'm not going to let this incompetent government off the hook on this.
They've been abyssmal.
Grant Shapps shocking.

They've run away again, again refusing to be interviewed on TV about the issue.
Unbelievable they are getting excused for this unnecessary mess and chaos.

Unbelievable, yet not at all shocking unfortunately, Boris and this government could literally slap a bunch of disabled people live on tv and people would find anything they could to excuse them for it, it’s just the way it goes with Tories these days

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Unbelievable, yet not at all shocking unfortunately, Boris and this government could literally slap a bunch of disabled people live on tv and people would find anything they could to excuse them for it, it’s just the way it goes with Tories these days

I agree Liam.
In effect though, they do slap disabled people Liam.
Admittedly not in public but they slap them down and humiliate even terminal cancer patients.
Having to go to court to get wrongly removed benefits restored.
Adding more unnecessary stress to their health.

Yet even that is hidden, never raised, never condemned by their hard-line heartless supporters.
Even voting for more of it in 2019 when out they went out to re-elect them.

So maybe it's not so unbelievable that this will be excused them too as to this fuel, deliveries and driver shortage
Which they've been warned about for months.

It strikes me little that goes wrong in the UK, is to their supporters, anything this government should do anything about, so not their fault when they don't.

Really unbelievable and sickening.

[Christmas Dynamo]

a little perspective

Youtube video

[arista]

Yes he is now Live

[Alf]