[arista]

One thing he stated Wrong
was Dom Cummings trip to that Castle :
was not for his eyes to be tested.

Cummings updated that
saying he left his home to get away from the Press.


The Prime Minister excepted he needed a break
from the Press.


Starmer skipped the truth.

[Oliver_W]

I'd be interested to see a rundown of his speech, as I didn't watch it live.

Looking through twitter it seems like it went down fairly well.

[Oliver_W]

Summary
* Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer gives his first speech to a full conference
* He says Labour under his leadership will not have an election manifesto "that is not a serious plan for government"
* There are heckles from the audience, to which he responds with "shouting slogans, or changing lives?"
* Sir Keir says rape and serious sexual assault cases will be fast-tracked under a Labour government
* And he pledges mental health spending would not be allowed to fall
* He focuses on education, calling for digital skills in schools and reinstating compulsory work experience
* He criticises Boris Johnson as "a trivial man, a showman with nothing left to show"
* The speech also focuses on science and research, with target investment of 3% of GDP
* He adds: "Without a strong economy we cannot pay for the good society"
* He finishes outlining his priorities: work, care, equality and security
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-p...8721590/page/4

Sounds good to me!

[Tom4784]

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[arista]

[arista]

At the End
Loads raised up Red cards

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

One thing he stated Wrong
was Dom Cummings trip to that Castle :
was not for his eyes to be tested.

Cummings updated that
saying he left his home to get away from the Press.


The Prime Minister excepted he needed a break
from the Press.


Starmer skipped the truth.

No Starmer was right.
He left London to get away he said, from the press to go to his parents.

The trip to Barnard Castle was later taken from his parents home.

He'd had, he said issues with his eyes, so he did a round trip to Barnard Castle to see if his eyes were okay while driving.
Before setting off to drive back to London.

[arista]

Labour Party Political Broadcast was on ITV1HD

And it will be on BBC1 at 6:55PM

It starts with young people in Stoke
Then Starmer goes by train to meet them.

[LaLaLand]

Not Carole from BB8 heckling!!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Not Carole from BB8 heckling!!

In fact it was they say.

[joeysteele]

What really pleased me most about today and Labour was the very welcome news Louise Ellman has returned to Labour.

I've always had immense respect for her.
Really good news.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What really pleased me most about today and Labour was the very welcome news Louise Ellman has returned to Labour.

I've always had immense respect for her.
Really good news.

Thankfully they're actually doing something about antisemitism nowadays, so if anyone else was harried out around the same time as her, hopefully they'll feel comfortable returning too

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Thankfully they're actually doing something about antisemitism nowadays, so if anyone else was harried out around the same time as her, hopefully they'll feel comfortable returning too

So do I hope they may return too Oliver.

[Oliver_W]

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

was she in BB?

Yes it was Big Brothers Carol Vincent

It was a ITV1 London News.
She lives in East London.

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

The Angry Heckler

2007 Big Brothers Carol Vincent.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Vincent.html


Now aged 67
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/162852...-keir-starmer/

[arista]

From a 2017 page
on Carol Protesting
Big Brother section.
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...d.php?t=290495

[LeatherTrumpet]

Typical hard left labour nutjob

They will never run this country

Awful

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Typical hard left labour nutjob

They will never run this country

Awful

A good pick for 2007 Big Brother

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Starmer is Live
On GMBHD itv


He is in the Westminster studio.



His Last Comment
was he would like a female Bond 007
he does not have a favourite.

[Cherie]

Carol is on LBC now

[joeysteele]

I can't warm to him myself.
However, I do get that for 2 elections we put forward policies, (which yes, Brexit a big issue), were rejected.
As was the Miliband policies in 2015.

So I do support his cautious approach to offer policies which resonate with voters but also sound credible to do.
In whatever circumstances the UK is in when the next election is fought.

To win outright, to me seems a pipedream.
Labour needs to be close to or over 10% ahead to gain overall majority status.

To be in government however an overall majority doesn't need to be achieved.
Labour can easily with the right policies and ones which are also attractive to other opposition parties.
Labour can take away the Cons overall majority, it is even likely Labour can get to be the largest party.

However the best it can hope for is to be a minority government with the support of a strong grouping like the SNP.
Who thankfully would always ensure the Cons were out too.
Even moreso after the incompetence of this Con government.

Or a full coalition with possibly the SNP.
Which for me would be no bad thing either.

I haven't liked a Prime Minister in my 29 years of life.
So I can tolerate Starmer too.
However I liked his vision, I liked his caution and I liked the things he listed as potential firmer policies once we know when the next election will be.

The road he's going on it seems, is not far enough for me but it's a start.
I'm disappointed the nationalisation policies of Corbyn are in doubt.
However there are other avenues than full blown nationalisation.

I wasn't born in the 80s but looking back, listening to much older people than myself.
The view I've come to is privatisation was one of the biggest cons ever in politics.

It has led only to ever rising bills and still lack of investment.
So my position would be to re- nationalise.
However again, it is an issue that could still feature in the next election or elections after.

So overall, I think he did well, I like the personal account of his life which brought him to politics and shaped his political thinking.

Whenever the next election comes, 2023 or 2024.
It's essential he presents to voters, new hope, with a programme which will do enough to take Labour to be the largest party or substantially take the Cons to a position where they cannot govern by removing not only their overall majority but many more seats too, to make it even with the Lib Dems and DUP, they can't get the numbers to govern with an overall majority.

That can be done.
That can be actually, more likely than not achievable.

[bitontheslide]

the tories don't go into any great detail on policies at the last few elections. They concentrate on a couple of key issues and hammer them home. Thats what labour should do as well. The more detail they publish, the more ammo everyone else has. If I remember correctly, it took labour weeks to produce the last manifesto and it was published in about 43 volumes