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View Poll Results: Do you let your head (principles) guide you or your heart?
Principles - rules are there for a reason and severe consequences should await those who break them 1 11.11%
Principles - rules are there for a reason and severe consequences should await those who break them
1 11.11%
I err more on the side of principality but I’m not a total robot 0 0%
I err more on the side of principality but I’m not a total robot
0 0%
I’m about 50-50 1 11.11%
I’m about 50-50
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I have my values and opinions about certain things but I’m more willing than not to bend 7 77.78%
I have my values and opinions about certain things but I’m more willing than not to bend
7 77.78%
I’m very spontaneous and easy-going - I always deal with the person, not the abstract idea 0 0%
I’m very spontaneous and easy-going - I always deal with the person, not the abstract idea
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Old 03-11-2021, 06:13 PM #1
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Default Are you a person of principle or practicality?

And by that I mean if you’re likely to, for example, give a homeless person a fiver (because in the moment you feel like it’s the humane/appropriate thing to do) or turn to the principle of giving money to people in the first place (you might not be comfortable doing that) or to homeless people per se (e.g., it’ll likely go on drugs/alcohol so why bother?).

Or if you were a high-school headteacher would you let certain ‘delinquencies’ from students slide (on the premise that it’s just realistic and natural for teenagers to step out of line and misbehave sometimes) or would you be an exact stickler for punishment (because of moral principles) every single time?
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Practicality for the most part but sometimes principle
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Practicality for the most part but sometimes principle
Same here.

A lot of the time principles are out-and-out hypocritical. The same people who refuse to give the homeless money because of the principle that “directly giving them money will only fuel their likely drugs habits” are the same who’ll spend £500 on a Friday night alone getting mortal on Havana juice and high on line after line after two big meals. The hypocrisy of these highly-principled, selfish people really pisses me off.
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i voted the top one

and i do not give "homeless" people money
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i voted the top one

and i do not give "homeless" people money
I was just using that as an example but it’s worth bearing in mind that not all people who appear to be homeless are pretending. Anyone can be without a home at any time (the average Brit. is literally one pay-cheque away from eviction). If it was me unluckily on the streets with nowhere else to go and nothing to eat because i defaulted on one-too-many rent arrears (which is a very common thing) I’d be depending on the hospitality of someone socially smart enough to realise that not all young black men are violent thugs (for example), not all middle-aged women perpetually nag (as another example) and not all homeless people are fully-roofed crackheads just looking for a handout to get more drugs. You can’t tar every single person with the same brush, especially not when it’s blatantly demonstrable how homelessness is a big issue.

By all means, don’t give them money if doing so wouldn’t resonate with your ‘principles.’ But know that not everyone out there’s pretending. It’s a cold world out there. Anything can happen to anyone at any time. That’s the crux of it.
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I was just using that as an example but it’s worth bearing in mind that not all people who appear to be homeless are pretending. Anyone can be without a home at any time (the average Brit. is literally one pay-cheque away from eviction). If it was me unluckily on the streets with nowhere else to go and nothing to eat because i defaulted on one-too-many rent arrears (which is a very common thing) I’d be depending on the hospitality of someone socially smart enough to realise that not all young black men are violent thugs (for example), not all middle-aged women perpetually nag (as another example) and not all homeless people are fully-roofed crackheads just looking for a handout to get more drugs. You can’t tar every single person with the same brush, especially not when it’s blatantly demonstrable how homelessness is a big issue.

By all means, don’t give them money if doing so wouldn’t resonate with your ‘principles.’ But know that not everyone out there’s pretending. It’s a cold world out there. Anything can happen to anyone at any time. That’s the crux of it.
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I feel like I'm 50-50 tbh.

For example if I was a Teacher at a School and a student swore at me I honestly wouldn't even care, however if they decided to get violent towards me or another student at the School then I'd hand the student an extreme punishment.
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I never said I was anything other than male so it’s either you’re confusing me with someone else or you just wanted to bait but needed a reason. Again, no one’s going to give you the reaction you want so I wouldn’t bother at this point. But you do you.

And either way gender has literally nothing to do with this thread so I don’t know why you thought this was the most appropriate section to make that random comment.
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Nope. He’s just baiting.
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Hmmm. I think I do have some fairly strong principles but when it comes right down to it, I take each situation as it comes, for better or worse. I also don't do very well with arbitrary rules and tend to question them if there are going to be consequences for breaking them... or if there won't be consequences... I just don't follow them .
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I dont think I have too strong princples these days to be quite honest. Its just whatever I decide in the moment. Theres obviously hard lines in places but generally speaking, depends.

The homeless thing, it would be more along the lines of..what mood I was in, how skint I was, and other factors I think.

The school thing, depends on the situation. Which is probably why I could never be a teacher or person of authority in any way
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i have a handful of strong principles that will not be bent under any circumstances, then it's how i feel at the time
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