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10-11-2021, 02:16 PM
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what they really need to do is stop MP's taking second jobs. This has bugged me for years. That would make outside lobbying much more clear cut
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10-11-2021, 02:24 PM
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Yes a shame New Labour Blair increased it all |
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11-11-2021, 05:21 AM
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Defence Secretary Ben Wallace will write to Labour and the SNP to express disappointment over the alleged poor behaviour of some of their MPs on a visit to troops in Gibraltar.
A witness told the BBC two SNP MPs drank very heavily on the journey and were inebriated on arrival. The account was rejected by the SNP, who called the accusations "false". A Labour MP has also been accused of drinking with the two SNP MPs. The party hasn't yet commented. Mr Wallace said the alleged conduct "risks undermining respect for Parliament". A group of 15 MPs were visiting troops in Gibraltar this week as part of the Armed Forces Parliamentary Scheme, which aims to give members of Parliament an insight into military life. The witness said the three MPs in question drank in the airport lounge before departure then drank heavily on the flight. But the SNP rejected the claims, and said their two MPs - Drew Hendry and David Linden - were "honoured to be invited" on the trip. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59243206 -------------- Bad behaviour from the SNP and labour |
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11-11-2021, 10:21 AM
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My post from yesterday LBC same topic right now |
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11-11-2021, 01:23 PM
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11-11-2021, 08:22 PM
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This doesn't sound like any behaviour David Linden would engage in.
It's a bit rich for the Cons to be talking at this time about undermining the respect of parliament. Unbelievable. If they HAVE, acted like the Cons state, IF, then indeed discipline needs to be enacted. However this PM, and the Cons really need to take a long hard look at their own. |
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11-11-2021, 09:17 PM
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the problem Joey is that an awful lot of MP's across the board take advantage of their jobs or act in a manner unsuitable for the status of the job, and it's been going on for decades.
I hate to refer back to Tony Blair, but the reason I do so in this case is because he had a massive majority. He laughed at ethics during his time because he could, a lot of MP's flouted the rules too. With a large majority, democracy and ethical concern goes out the window because they know they are protected (unless the press go wild or they did something really bad) Boris is acting pretty much the same, he does at least reverse decisions some times when there is an outcry, so that's an improvement over Blair. Going back even further to Thatcher's massive majority and MP's were held accountable quite regularly. There were plenty incidents, but they did result in resignations etc. I think the reason for that was that in those days MP's were still respected unlike now, so the scale of transgression always seemed more obvious |
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11-11-2021, 11:14 PM
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The whole political system needs changing from the top down. I would never disagree with you re Blair. This is why I don't like governments with massive majorities. I'm not going to do my usual as to changing the electoral system. Which would in my view make MPs far more concerned at impressing their voters and holding their seats. Johnson however in my view only backtracks after media and public outcry. Had he had no or little negative response to putting his vote to change this system to assist this MP. Then he'd have not even considered a u turn on it. He knew these things needed to be set up with cross party agreement. He rushed this through, whipping his MPs. Without EVER consulting other parties. It's good there was an outcry. Without it, he wouldn't have listened at all. Politics I doubt now cannot be mended, without a change to ensure NO party can govern after getting the support of around 4 in 10 voters. With majorities of high double figure seats. For as long as we have around 40% of voters dictating a massive overall majority government over the near 57% of voters who didn't support having such a government. Then trust and respect cannot be restored. I don't necessarily agree, an awful lot of MPs take advantage. I think it's a reasonable number but not an awful lot. I know there are dedicated, caring MPs across ALL parties, who try to hold their integrity and do the best they can in their career for their constituents. Overall however, I agree with your post in the main. |
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12-11-2021, 06:19 AM
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i think the MP who suggested Rashford concentrate on his day job and had a second job themselves is absolutely priceless
 That has to be the story of the week |
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12-11-2021, 08:42 PM
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12-11-2021, 09:02 PM
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The last time this was done a complete idiot got elected too |
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13-11-2021, 08:30 AM
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Labour has not gone along with dropping out and putting up an anti sleaze candidate up though. Labour will be standing. I thought the anti sleaze candidate idea was ridiculous. Would the Labour party, Lib Dems and Greens be saying, their OWN candidates wouldn't be anti sleaze. Bonkers. Plus, the new Conservative candidate too, surely wouldn't be a sleaze one either.. I'm sure the Cons will ensure a safer pair of hands for this seat. Last edited by joeysteele; 13-11-2021 at 10:10 AM. |
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