[Withano]

Originally Posted by Alf

What, our belief in free choice?

Call it what you want. Whatever makes you sleep better at night I guess. Tell yourself that history will look down poorly on the vaccinated whilst ignoring your very likely contribution to the death toll.

It’s all a bit ridiculous. But do what you need to sleep easy.

[AnnieK]

I don't really care who is vaccinated or not...I've had it and will be taking the booster when I can. I just hope the vaccine cynics think about their actions in all this if they unfortunately land in a hospital bed and ask the medics to use the science they so desperately don't believe in to save their lives. I would bet they would place their trust in medicine then and take a much needed hospital bed from a cancer patient, cardiac patient etcetc. Its a free choice to take the vaccine.....businesses and other establishments have the right to choose who enters their properties, if you're not vaccinated go to somewhere where they don't care if you are or not. That's you're right to do it. No-one is really being stopped doing anything....there may be more stringent procedures if you've not had the jab.....but in England at the moment there is no restrictions on what you can do

[Cherie]

I don't really get the furore over Santa with a covid pass, that is what you need to travel between countries

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't really get the furore over Santa with a covid pass, that is what you need to travel between countries

So if you haven't injected an experimental vaccine that doesn't work into your body, you don't get to travel? Are you likening that with a normal passport?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

So if you haven't injected an experimental vaccine that doesn't work into your body, you don't get to travel? Are you likening that with a normal passport?

You can still travel but you have to take a PCR test, that would be a be difficult, easier to take the jab, people used to have to provide evidence of Yellow Fever innoculation in the 60s, and for many countries you would pay your GP to have jabs, I dont see any difference ..every drug you take is experiemental as it you may have a unique reaction to it

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You couldn't travel to a bunch of countries before all this without vaccinations, I never saw you get on a soapbox about that.

It's almost like you were fine with vaccinations until your right wing conspiracy rabbit hole falsely convinced you it was some political conspiracy.

Still am fine with vaccinations. You just read the script wrong.

[Alf]

Do you think because I state the fact that the vaccines you've taken doesn't prevent you from catching and spreading Covid and that it should be a free, conscious choice to take any medical treatment that I'm somehow against all vaccines? If so, then you just don't listen.

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So you're fine with other vaccinations being mandated? You're fine with not being allowed access to certain countries before if you didn't have the correct vaccinations? But this one in particular is upsetting to you? Makes no sense.

I've never consciously taken a vaccine in my life. If I did it would be a free choice. But if people were trying to force it on me with the threat of removing my liberties I'd be very, very suspicious. Which is where we are now.

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You're not entitled to go to other countries, you never have been, well, no. We used to be able to go to the EU freely but people like you put paid to that.

You do have a choice, and you make it every day. If you want to go abroad, get vaccinated, if not, get used to going on Holiday in the UK. It's basically no different to before, but you were fine with that.

You don't have the entitlement to demand access to other countries when you don't abide by their rules.

Never been in abroad in my life and have no intentions to. So I don't need to get used to holidaying in the UK, I'm already used to it. Suits me fine.

[Cherie]

I have looked at the ad now, and someone suggests Santa has to quarantine, but then he provides his vaccination status, I think its meant to be light hearted not a subliminal message to get vaxxed.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I have looked at the ad now, and someone suggests Santa has to quarantine, but then he provides his vaccination status, I think its meant to be light hearted not a subliminal message to get vaxxed.

I think the anger towards it comes from people who see it as pushing propaganda rather that an advert for what Tesco offer this Christmas. I guess some people don't like being took for fools.

[Alf]

It doesn't bother me because I don't shop there anyway, Tesco is a bus ride away from me, while I have an Asda, Lidl, Aldi, B&M, Iceland and Heron Foods all within walking distance.

[Glenn.]

‘It doesn’t bother me’ says Alf with over double the post count than anyone in the thread

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

‘It doesn’t bother me’ says Alf with over double the post count than anyone in the thread

None of which have been me championing for people to boycott. But nice of you to notice that I contribute well to the forum.

[Tom4784]

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[GoldHeart]

The irrational anger over Santa getting vaxxed for a Tesco ad , I will never understand why people were ok with getting their meningitis, TB etc jabs yet they refuse to get a Covid jab now . Doesn't make any sense to me.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The irrational anger over Santa getting vaxxed for a Tesco ad , I will never understand why people were ok with getting their meningitis, TB etc jabs yet they refuse to get a Covid jab now . Doesn't make any sense to me.

The truest words you've spoken.

[Tom4784]

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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's an extremist mindset.

It starts with a person clicking a video on YouTube or an article on Facebook and then the algorithm just keeps recommending more and more, with the articles and the videos becoming more extreme and conspiracy orientated until the person is too deep down the rabbit hole to see the sun anymore.

Exactly
The rabbit hole is deeper than in Alice in Wonderland, once they're in it they can't get out or refuse to get out.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's an extremist mindset.

It starts with a person clicking a video on YouTube or an article on Facebook and then the algorithm just keeps recommending more and more, with the articles and the videos becoming more extreme and conspiracy orientated until the person is too deep down the rabbit hole to see the sun anymore.

Rabbit holes now? It was Horse paste last time you were here. Anymore strange animal based insults?

[Tom4784]

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