[Nicky91]

Netherlands:

https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/30/new-co...s-kuipers-says

The package of stricter coronavirus restrictions implemented on Sunday will very likely not be scrapped after three weeks, according to Ernst Kuipers, head of the national acute care network LNAZ. The number of Covid-19 patients in hospital is simply too high for that, he said, NU.nl reports.

When announcing the new measures in a press conference on Friday, caretaker Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Hugo de Jonge said they would apply for at least three weeks. After that, the Cabinet will examine whether an extension is necessary. Rutte said he hoped the measures would only apply for three weeks so that we could have "a bit of a normal Christmas." But he would not give a clear answer on how realistic that hope was.

According to Kuipers, that hope was not realistic at all. Before the Cabinet can scrap measures, "we should really see a decrease in the number of infections, and that must last for some time," he said. Because the current infections and hospitalizations are at such a high level, that will likely not happen within three weeks. Kuipers noted that the number of Covid patients in the hospital would need to at least halve before measures can be scrapped. That number can be "combined well with regular care."

On Monday, the RIVM reported 48 coronavirus-related hospitalizations, about the same number as last week's daily average. A total of 2,780 Covid-19 patients are currently hospitalized, including 571 in intensive care

[Alf]

It's certainly kept the Maxwell trial down the pecking order in the news cycle.

Youtube video

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: Omicron variant one week earlier than thought, in samples taken from tests of November 19th, November 23th


these samples had the same extra ''spike protein'' which made them think it was omicron and now test results have confirmed this


it is uncertain if the people who these samples are from, have been in southern africa

[bitontheslide]

i got my invite to get the booster today from the NHS. I booked it a month ago and had it last week, so it's good to see they are on the ball

[arista]

Another Live Downing St.
Covid update 4PM today

Prime Minister

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i got my invite to get the booster today from the NHS. I booked it a month ago and had it last week, so it's good to see they are on the ball

Get another one. Why not? 110% effective, you will actively repel Covid in a 5 metre radius around you.

[parmnion]

FAO Dezzy..

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...o7february2021

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by parmnion

FAO Dezzy..

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...o7february2021

Props for posting actual stats Parmy. Vaccine hesitancy is definitely skewed heavily towards younger people; the root is really in hyperindividualism/youthful libertarianism (ironically, something that is DEEPLY imbedded in the US-centric cultural "left" at the moment). Young people don't feel at individual physical risk.

I would hazard a guess that opposition to covid measures in general (mask wearing, social distancing, indoor gatherings etc.) is more evenly spread across age groups though.

For the mostpart it's a class/political divide not an age divide.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Hyperbole aside, the pandemic has been a gift for the fatcats, at the expense of smaller businesses...

It's done purposely, It's all part of the plan.

They will own everything, including us. We will own nothing. They're actually telling us this themselves. They're so confident in doing so because they know most arne't even listening, and the ones who are just get passed aside as crazy conspiracy theorists, that's how easy it is for them. Don't take my word for it, take their words for it.

They're even making adverts saying "You will own nothing and be happy"

This video is from Sky News Australia a few months back.

Youtube video

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

No. Progress will be when they all stand trial for crimes against humanity.

Do you think it's progress for business owners who are gonna lose so much that they go out of business because people will just not shop in their shops at the busiest time of the year?

Amazon will be rubbing their hands with Ł signs in their eyes, while the little people will be on the way to the gutter. But who cares as long as you're under the illusion that the government is keeping you safe?

Have you been the shops lately they are packed

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Have you been the shops lately they are packed

I thought the mandates only came in today?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

I thought the mandates only came in today?

you think mask wearing is going stop shoppers...lets see

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

you think mask wearing is going stop shoppers...lets see

I hope not, but I did hear today that Boris has issued threats that anyone caught without one in a shop will receive a Ł200 fine. Obviously that won't stand up in court, but will be enough to frighten plenty of people who just arne't aware of the law.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's done purposely, It's all part of the plan.

They will own everything, including us. We will own nothing. They're actually telling us this themselves. They're so confident in doing so because they know most arne't even listening, and the ones who are just get passed aside as crazy conspiracy theorists, that's how easy it is for them. Don't take my word for it, take their words for it.

They're even making adverts saying "You will own nothing and be happy"

This video is from Sky News Australia a few months back.

Youtube video

Bit complex if you get into this stuff Alf. I don't actually disagree that the pandemic (and climate change, and a few other things) are being used to consolidate wealth in fewer and fewer places. For example - look at the energy company situation in the UK now. All of the small companies have bust, all are pretty much now under the banner of just a few large monopolies. I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to observe that certain people/powers are USING these things to their own ends. I just think it's a stretch to suggest that they've invented/fabricated them to do so. They've been opportunistic.

That said... ... it's also not untrue that the human race on its current course is simply not sustainable. World's ****ed. Too many people, resources now exploited to capacity, no wriggle room left.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Bit complex if you get into this stuff Alf. I don't actually disagree that the pandemic (and climate change, and a few other things) are being used to consolidate wealth in fewer and fewer places. For example - look at the energy company situation in the UK now. All of the small companies have bust, all are pretty much now under the banner of just a few large monopolies. I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to observe that certain people/powers are USING these things to their own ends. I just think it's a stretch to suggest that they've invented/fabricated them to do so. They've been opportunistic.

That said... ... it's also not untrue that the human race on its current course is simply not sustainable. World's ****ed. Too many people, resources now exploited to capacity, no wriggle room left.

OR it was released on purpose, I am happy to go with that one

[arista]

Alf Down Under they
are well strict.

Nothing like us.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

I hope not, but I did hear today that Boris has issued threats that anyone caught without one in a shop will receive a Ł200 fine. Obviously that won't stand up in court, but will be enough to frighten plenty of people who just arne't aware of the law.

who will impose it? no one

you might get the odd one on public transport as they have their own police, but no shop is going to call the police to issue fines

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

OR it was released on purpose, I am happy to go with that one

I'm surprised there's not more conspiracy theories about it having been developed/released by the Chinese "government" to kill vast swathes of Westerners, or worldwide forces to move more money towards the rich and take more control over the people.

While I'm not saying I believe it, it's certainly plausible that the virus was deliberately created...

[arista]

[Health chief warns
'don't socialise before Christmas
unless you need to' and
Sadiq Khan urges Londoners
to 'wear masks in pubs and restaurants'
to tackle Omicron
as Boris prepares to hold
press conference Today.

Dr Jenny Harries warned Omicron could have
a 'significant impact on our hospitals' if
jabs are much weaker
She hinted WFH is already being considered
within No10 and could be the
next measure to be reintroduced
New rules on compulsory face masks
and self-isolation came into effect in
England from 4am this morning
Boris Johnson will hold a
press conference at 4pm this
afternoon to give an update
on the Covid situation]

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Interestingly, quite a few rolls I know have had Covid recently. Two workmates had it a couple of months ago (both are fine but have ongoing sense of smell issues), a friend’s dad just tested positive, and another friend of mine has just come out of a 10 day Covid isolation. He’s type 1 diabetic but his symptoms were very mild - one day feeling a bit rough, the following day tired, then completely fine. Was working from home from his spare room. Could be purely down to chance, or… could be that there’s some truth in the idea that there’s a milder strain going around now? He said it was barely a sniffle and literally less than 48h, and that’s with an underlying condition and not THAT young (he’s my age, so not ancient, but certainly not a teenager).

Our neighbours have it as we speak - their son was the first to show symptoms, picked it up at primary school - there were so many cases they closed the school and everyone was ‘advised’ to get a PCR test

.. the lad just had a cough , his sister no symptoms , the mum no symptoms yet the dad who is a healthy and strong 35 yrs old builder has been floored for two weeks - just moving from his bed to a lie down on the sofa and back to bed .

Crazy


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[Health chief warns
'don't socialise before Christmas
unless you need to' and
Sadiq Khan urges Londoners
to 'wear masks in pubs and restaurants'
to tackle Omicron
as Boris prepares to hold
press conference Today.

Dr Jenny Harries warned Omicron could have
a 'significant impact on our hospitals' if
jabs are much weaker
She hinted WFH is already being considered
within No10 and could be the
next measure to be reintroduced
New rules on compulsory face masks
and self-isolation came into effect in
England from 4am this morning
Boris Johnson will hold a
press conference at 4pm this
afternoon to give an update
on the Covid situation]

Dont socialise unless you need to

[bitontheslide]

the biggest money is always generated in crisis. There are always people with no scruples that take advantage. That's how it has always been. People are behaving like it's something new, but it's as old as time

[parmnion]

Omicron B is an anagram of No Crimbo.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm surprised there's not more conspiracy theories about it having been developed/released by the Chinese "government" to kill vast swathes of Westerners, or worldwide forces to move more money towards the rich and take more control over the people.

While I'm not saying I believe it, it's certainly plausible that the virus was deliberately created...

I mean ... The governments are literally doing everything they can to take advantage of the virus, with power grabs and handing money over to the rich. As BOTS suggests, it's just the governments taking advantage of the situation, but it gives plenty of ammo for conspiracy theorists to say it's beennset up that way...