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Old 01-12-2021, 02:11 PM #9551
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I do have some limits though alf, and this below goes way over my acceptable limits, and it could easily spell the end of the EU


European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has said she thinks it's time for EU member states to consider mandatory vaccinations.

She said such measures were required due to the emergence of the Omicron variant.

"On the one hand we have the virus and the variants, on the other hand we have vaccination and boosters and I want the second part to win," she told reporters in Brussels.

"Not each and everyone can be vaccinated," she acknowledged, but said "the vast majority could".

"Therefore, I think, it is understandable and appropriate to lead this discussion now [on] how we can encourage and potentially think about mandatory vaccination within the European Union," she added.

"This needs discussion. This needs a common approach, but it is a discussion that I think has to be led."
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European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has said she thinks it's time for EU member states to consider mandatory vaccinations.

She said such measures were required due to the emergence of the Omicron variant.

"On the one hand we have the virus and the variants, on the other hand we have vaccination and boosters and I want the second part to win," she told reporters in Brussels.

"Not each and everyone can be vaccinated," she acknowledged, but said "the vast majority could".

"Therefore, I think, it is understandable and appropriate to lead this discussion now [on] how we can encourage and potentially think about mandatory vaccination within the European Union," she added.

"This needs discussion. This needs a common approach, but it is a discussion that I think has to be led."
Shall we insult you and your limits, like we do alf?
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South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has lashed out at African countries that have followed western countries in restricting travel to and from southern African states.

He said it was unfortunate, and that he would have preferred if they did not react like their former colonisers over the discovery of the new coronavirus variant Omicron.

“I am concerned and of course out of respect to them, I mean they have their reasons," he told journalists ahead of a visit to West Africa.

"But we would like to have a discussion with them in a way where we would prefer that they do not react like our former colonisers, who are very quick to close Africa down."

Rwanda, The Seychelles, Mauritius, Egypt and Angola are some of the African countries that closed their borders soon after the discovery of the new variant.
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South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has lashed out at African countries that have followed western countries in restricting travel to and from southern African states.

He said it was unfortunate, and that he would have preferred if they did not react like their former colonisers over the discovery of the new coronavirus variant Omicron.

“I am concerned and of course out of respect to them, I mean they have their reasons," he told journalists ahead of a visit to West Africa.

"But we would like to have a discussion with them in a way where we would prefer that they do not react like our former colonisers, who are very quick to close Africa down."

Rwanda, The Seychelles, Mauritius, Egypt and Angola are some of the African countries that closed their borders soon after the discovery of the new variant.
According to the Independent it was in Nigeria weeks before SA
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Omicron Covid Cases Total for UK is now 32
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Wednesday 1/12/21

171 have Died
48,374 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,634

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
916

144,969 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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Weds 24/11/21

149 have Died
43,676 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
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144,286 UK Total of Deaths of Covid-19

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171 have Died
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Patients in hospital
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USA now has an Omicron Covid Case
in California.
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SkyNews Text :
[Scientists have found that bearded faces are
less likely to carry the superbug MRSA,
according to the Daily Star.]

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The UK government has just signed contracts to buy a total of 114 million additional Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna doses, for 2022 and 2023.

And these future supply deals include access to modified vaccines, if they are needed to combat Omicron and future variants of concern, to prepare for all eventualities.
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Another 3 people collapsing in the stands at last night's football games in england.
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Another 3 people collapsing in the stands at last night's football games in england.
one at Watford and one at Southampton, where was the other one?

are we linking these to the jab now?
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are we linking these to the jab now?
Wigan..and it needs discussed.
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Wigan..and it needs discussed.
what are we discussing? do we know if they were vaccinated given vaccine passports are not a requirement at football matches in England

the fan at Watford had a cardiac arrest

the fan at Southampton collapsed but not due to heart issues

not sure about the fan at Wigan, do you know?
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i don't know about anyone else, but in my lifetime i've seen 3 people collapse from heart attacks just walking down the street. So these things happen.

Just to provide some context:

Heart and circulatory diseases cause a quarter of all deaths in the UK, that’s more than 160,000 deaths each year – an average of 460 deaths each day or one every three minutes in the UK.

There are around 7.6 million people living with a heart or circulatory disease in the UK: 4 million men and 3.6 million women.

Coronary heart disease (CHD; also known as ischaemic heart disease) is the most common type of heart disease. It is the most common cause of heart attack and was the single biggest killer of both and men and women worldwide in 2019.

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With millions of people having been vaccinated, if heart attack was a serious risk from the vaccine, the number of heart attacks would have gone through the roof. It should still be investigated of course, but i wouldn't jump to conclusions either

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