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Old 09-12-2021, 10:02 AM #9926
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SO why would the PM simply not say that?
i've no idea. It all keeps getting clouded by the press getting angry over a party that may or may not have happened a year ago. We can't do anything about 12 months ago, but its showing the true priority of the press .... the best story is better than any potential emergency

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Good morning Britain Post a poll.

It seems like the outcome of the poll wasn't going the way they wanted it to, so they deleted it. The question is, why?

Has any spokesperson for Good Morning Britain explained why, Arista?

If not, then all I can do is take a guess. My guess would be it's because they're not journalists but instead are propagandists.



I don't know why they expect people to agree that making them mandatory is a good thing.

I'm triple vaccinated, I recommend that everyone get vaccinated, I am 100% Pro Covid vaccination... But I will NEVER accept that making any medical intervention mandatory is the right choice. I don't just think it's "not right" I think it's an absolute disaster for the very concepts of medical consent and civil liberties.
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I don't know why they expect people to agree that making them mandatory is a good thing.

I'm triple vaccinated, I recommend that everyone get vaccinated, I am 100% Pro Covid vaccination... But I will NEVER accept that making any medical intervention mandatory is the right choice. I don't just think it's "not right" I think it's an absolute disaster for the very concepts of medical consent and civil liberties.
i think the majority feel that way hence the poll result. I think europe will have severe problems if/when they start mandatory vaccinations. The most docile of people will fight back against it, they know its a slippery slope
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Does anyone have the link for the Covid pass thingy .. the one that doesn’t just last for 30 days


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Good morning Britain Post a poll.

It seems like the outcome of the poll wasn't going the way they wanted it to, so they deleted it. The question is, why?

Has any spokesperson for Good Morning Britain explained why, Arista?

If not, then all I can do is take a guess. My guess would be it's because they're not journalists but instead are propagandists.


Why would Good Morning Britain think that people would vote any differently?
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i think the simple answer is that they wont know how serious it is until it infects 10s of thousands, so at the moment they are trying to slow the infection spread down to give science a chance to get ready.

If they didnt take these measures now, they would be accused of not acting fast enough and potentially causing the death of thousands, so I can see the dilemma they have. I don't like the restrictions at all, but I will accept them for a short time if it potentially saves a lot of lives
I think what's bizarre to me is they're responding quicker to a mild variant than they ever did when Covid cases started hitting the country back in 2019 when the disease was unknown on how deadly it was gonna be or not.
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I don't think anyone would actually follow another lockdown. People are sick of it.
But they should have covid passed for all crowded events.
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I think what's bizarre to me is they're responding quicker to a mild variant than they ever did when Covid cases started hitting the country back in 2019 when the disease was unknown on how deadly it was gonna be or not.
experience has a lot to do with it, like i say, i'm not keen on restrictions, but if its all fine and dandy in a month, it's better to have described the government as over cautious. Unfortunately, i dont think the restrictions in place will be enough, and ultimately we will end up locked down for the winter.
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Mandatory vaccines are a terrible idea, but I do approve of making it so that unvaccinated people (without medical exemptions) cannot go to recreational events with loads of people in attendance (Pubs, clubs, cinemas, gigs, festivals etc). People who choose not to get vaccinated because they are dumb enough to believe Facebook over science should have the conviction in their beliefs to be fine with not having access to these places. Then again, the overgrown brats that are anti-vaxxers throw tantrums when faced with the consequences of their choices.

I think the Plan B measures are good, but they should go further, and they probably will, before long.
So you want unvaccinated people to be segregated from you pure people. Shall they sit at the back of the bus or not be allowed on the bus at all?
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So you want unvaccinated people to be segregated from you pure people. Shall they sit at the back of the bus or not be allowed on the bus at all?
That is mandation by the back door imo
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BoJo is barely hanging on, IMO.

He's such an embarrassment, I'm surprised the 1922 Committee hasn't already decided he needs to "resign" and save their party some dignity.

We're not far away from the two years running up to the next election - can Boris' status as "a good old boy who'd be a laugh down the pub" still hold up, and help him to lead his party to another victory?

I mean, even losing by a little would be a big step-up for Labour since the 2019 pasting,but we're getting to the point where BoJo is helping them...
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BoJo is barely hanging on, IMO.

He's such an embarrassment, I'm surprised the 1922 Committee hasn't already decided he needs to "resign" and save their party some dignity.

We're not far away from the two years running up to the next election - can Boris' status as "a good old boy who'd be a laugh down the pub" still hold up, and help him to lead his party to another victory?

I mean, even losing by a little would be a big step-up for Labour since the 2019 pasting,but we're getting to the point where BoJo is helping them...
He's fine. This isn't that big of a scandal to the majority. It'll soon blow over in my opinion.

Michelle Dewberry did a poll today and while there's just over three thousand votes in this poll, the majority of those say "move on" and that's with this still being fresh.




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He's fine. This isn't that big of a scandal to the majority. It'll soon blow over in my opinion.

Michelle Dewberry did a poll today and while there's just over three thousand votes in this poll, the majority of those say "move on" and that's with this still being fresh.



The party in of itself may or may not be a big deal, but it's what it represents - the ivory tower lawmakers having fun while telling people not to see their friends and family.

All that's missing from this story is the man in the Red Masque - mores the pity.
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Scotland health has said Cancel all Xmas Parties
due to the infection rate getting worse.


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Thursday 12/9/21

148 have Died.
50,867 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,347

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
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146,135 Total UK Covid -19 Deaths


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141 have Died
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145,281 Total UK Covid Deaths of Covid-19

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