[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Lockdown going well then

yes i think so

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

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The flu

Last seen in 2019

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

A small percentage yea but the suggestion is that all flu deaths are for some reason being logged as Covid deaths. Flu deaths might have been mistaken for Covid deaths way back when we didn’t have reliable testing, but since then, it would as you say only be a death caused by flu of someone who also had a positive Covid test within 28 days before dying. In all probability it will have happened at some point, but only a small number of times. Most flu deaths will not be mistakenly counted in Covid figures. There seems to be some confusion about why we’re “not hearing about flu deaths” but that’s just because they’re not logging flu deaths (or any other deaths) daily like they do with Covid deaths and, as it’s always been, you only get those stats for the full year, once they’ve been compiled.

Deaths from flu and other non-Covid-related pneumonia in England and Wales in 2020 were 20,523. This is largely consistent with pre-Covid years (approx 20,000 PA).

The data for 2021 will not be available until late 2022… they take a while to compile. But to say they don’t exist/aren’t being logged/seem to have stopped is nonsense, this data is easily and clearly available via ONS.

FWIW I think once the pandemic is “over” or more stable I think we will eventually get more accurate revised stats about Covid cases, deaths and fatality ratios. That will likely be beyond 2025. The data we get as “live updates” now is messy and unrefined… but as close to accurate as is possible without more in depth analysis.

Again you just selectively go through reading what you want to read and believing what you want to believe in this thread Alf, but maybe you'll see it now that it's been up twice.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Lockdown going well then

[LeatherTrumpet]

Youtube video

The point he makes about the shocking slowness of the WHO talking about Omnicron is incredible

[Nicky91]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1989036.html

Qanon lady Cirsten weldon who wanted dr anthony fauci beheaded, died of covid



karma is a bitch

[Kazanne]

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/covid-19-...141949697.html

This was an interesting read.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/covid-19-...141949697.html

This was an interesting read.

So the UK are handling Covid 19 better than every other country yet Labour and the general media are trying to hound Boris out of office because some imbecile sent out a stupid email ...


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The UK is the closest of any country in the northern hemisphere to exiting the Covid-19 pandemic, an expert has said.

Professor David Heymann, from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM), suggested in a Chatham House online briefing that the UK was seeing the disease become endemic.

He said: “In general, now, the countries that we know best in the northern hemisphere have varying stages of the pandemic.

“And probably, in the UK, it’s the closest to any country of being out of the pandemic if it isn’t already out of the pandemic and having the disease as endemic as the other four coronaviruses.”



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[arista]

Tuesday 11/1/22

379 have Died
120,821 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
19,828

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
820


150,609 Total UK Deaths from Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[LeatherTrumpet]

vents down again - great news as that is the big drain on resources

[LeatherTrumpet]

Nicola Sturgeon confirms Scottish football can return to capacity crowds from Monday

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

vents down again - great news as that is the big drain on resources

Excellent


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[Zizu]

USA

Infections AND hospitalisations both hit record HIGH today !!




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[arista]

Hell in China

[Sprawling quarantine camps with rows
upon rows of cramped metal boxes to house people
suspected of having Covid-19 have sprung up in China]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...deos-show.html

[bitontheslide]

its going to be interesting over the next few weeks. Which was the better approach, locking down or leaving it to run its course. My money is on letting its run it's course

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its going to be interesting over the next few weeks. Which was the better approach, locking down or leaving it to run its course. My money is on letting its run it's course

yes i agree, now we need to remove all lockdowns, open all non-essential stores again


the more people who spread omicron further, the better the chance delta might go away more the more people who get omicron the better


also my mom's thoughts now

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Hell in China

[Sprawling quarantine camps with rows
upon rows of cramped metal boxes to house people
suspected of having Covid-19 have sprung up in China]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...deos-show.html

... and we all complain over here


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its going to be interesting over the next few weeks. Which was the better approach, locking down or leaving it to run its course. My money is on letting its run it's course

yes, apparently there is a new childhood respiratory illness doing the rounds now that causes shortness of breath and that is down to low immunity due to lockdowns

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...en-this-summer

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yes, apparently there is a new childhood respiratory illness doing the rounds now that causes shortness of breath and that is down to low immunity due to lockdowns

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...en-this-summer

I call BS on this, kids have been back in school for a good 18 months and all of the normal sniffles and sneezes went around last year. If anything last year was quite a "bad one" - loads of little bugs going around in early winter 2020 after the "long" homeschooling period.

Why would they have low immunity currently?

Schools haven't been "off" since February 2021... and even then it was just normal Xmas break extended by a month or so.

Unless they're claiming kids are mixing less outside of school? That doesn't ring true from what I've seen either.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1989036.html

Qanon lady Cirsten weldon who wanted dr anthony fauci beheaded, died of covid



karma is a bitch

After watching the testaments in the American Senate, against Fauci and his involvement in Wuhan's gain of function, I'd say he's a man not to trust. He may well end up being put on trial for this whole sorry mess.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I call BS on this, kids have been back in school for a good 18 months and all of the normal sniffles and sneezes went around last year. If anything last year was quite a "bad one" - loads of little bugs going around in early winter 2020 after the "long" homeschooling period.

Why would they have low immunity currently?

Schools haven't been "off" since February 2021... and even then it was just normal Xmas break extended by a month or so.

Unless they're claiming kids are mixing less outside of school? That doesn't ring true from what I've seen either.

I think they are talking about babies/preschool kids

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1989036.html

Qanon lady Cirsten weldon who wanted dr anthony fauci beheaded, died of covid



karma is a bitch

Yes, Nasty Women
no need for her.

[arista]

Wednesday 12/1/22


398 have Died
129,587 have caught Covid-19



Patients in hospital
Latest available
19,735

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
793



151,007 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Wednesday 5/1/22

334 have Died
197,747 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
17,276


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
911

149,284 Total UK Deaths from Covid-19



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Weds 12/01/2022

Originally Posted by arista

398 have Died
129,587 have caught Covid-19



Patients in hospital
Latest available
19,735

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
793



151,007 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[arista]

Cherie add the Date please


I have just done the date

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Cherie add the Date please


I have just done the date

Done Sir