[arista]

Posted on the Starmer thread, as well.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Posted on the Starmer thread, as well.

We shouldn’t trust any politicians to make the important decisions for the country ..
Let them control the roads and highways etc


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[LaLaLand]

That Starmer thing was going around last year iirc and was proven to have been all above board rules-wise? (Unlike Downing Street's rave ups).

See dates (found on Twitter):

Spoiler:

[UserSince2005]

Ratty Starman is the biggest hipocrite of them all.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Final nail in the political coffin surely?

I’m ****ing fuming.

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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

The table nearest to the camera is Boris, Dominic Cummings (left) and what looks like, based on the hair, could be Allegra Stratton holding a dog/cat? Man with glasses and arms in the air I don’t recognise.

Unbelievable.

Who do you recognise in the Starmer photo , Sherlock ?


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

That Starmer thing was going around last year iirc and was proven to have been all above board rules-wise? (Unlike Downing Street's rave ups).

See dates (found on Twitter):

Spoiler:

Yes it was reported on last year.
I knew I'd seen and heard about it previously.

Apparently it was during the campaign for the by election in Hartlepool.

It's quite odd the media couldn't make a major issue of it at that time.
Accepted the explanation and now are re- reporting it now.

It still irritates me, that any leaders or MPs were engaging in drinks etc in any scenarios, no matter who they are.

However, it's interesting to see hard-line Cons and closet hardline Cons, really hammering now, this instance.
While some of them are sidestepping the now endless list of rule breaking allegations on some, while others are proven and admitted, after being caught out as to Downing Street and other notable Conservative premises.

Plus too, the email of bring your own booze, well there's full intent shown to break the rules.
That's also the one Johnson himself appeared at and DIDN'T bring it to an end.
However stayed present at it for 25 minutes.

We need much better leadership in the Country for sure and certainly there's no national party who has a really good leader.

However there's one who has shown himself a disgrace in power and that's Johnson.
A man who is Prime Minister and should control his government and protect the Country.
Who then hasn't a clue he claims as to what is happening in his base and workplace, which is also his home.
Who cannot tell the difference between a party and people working.
Well he is either just as usual politically lying and being deceitful or needs medical help.

For me it's the former and surely in my view, those patriotic Conservative backbenchers who have a strong sense of fair play.
For them now the April eve of the funeral of Prince Philip where the Queen herself obeyed the rules, couldn't even have one of her attendants at her side during the funeral.
With that covered up until being revealed 2 days ago.

Surely that must make them think more to get rid of this habitual politically deceitful lying creep Johnson.

It's beyond common sense never mind anything else to have to believe all that's gone in at Downing Street, the heart of government, could do so without his knowledge.

The list seems ever growing.
I repeat the admissions and apologies only coming because they've been CAUGHT OUT.
Otherwise no one would have known anything.
So hollow apologies all round.

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Zizu

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See above, Sherlock.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

See above, Sherlock.

I was hoping for names as you’d named everyone in the garden party photo ..


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[arista]

BBC Text:
[Fallout from the Downing Street parties
which took place during coronavirus restrictions continues
to dominate the front pages.
The Sunday Times says Boris Johnson is planning a
raft of "populist" announcements and a clearout of No 10
in a bid to hold onto his premiership.
The paper says the PM is refusing to take responsibility
for the crisis engulfing Downing Street.
A senior government source is quoted as
telling the paper: "Boris's view is that he is not to blame.
That everyone else is to blame."]

[arista]

BBC Text:
[But the Observer has spoken with Conservative MPs who,
the paper says, are poised to force
Mr Johnson out of No 10 if he tries to dodge responsibility.
Furious voter reaction has persuaded Tory MPs
to act against Mr Johnson if Sue Gray's investigation
is critical of him or his Downing Street operation,
the paper adds.
Meanwhile, the main image on the front page is
of the moment the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai volcano
in the South Pacific erupted on Saturday,
leading to warnings from the US and Japan of tsunami waves.]

[arista]

[arista]

BBC Text :
[Downing Street comes as the
government is planning to tax party supplies,
introducing a levy on plastic glasses,
cutlery and balloons.]

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

BBC Text :
[Downing Street comes as the
government is planning to tax party supplies,
introducing a levy on plastic glasses,
cutlery and balloons.]

So if he doesn’t sack the incompetent individuals he’s in the wrong yet if he DOES sack the incompetent individuals then he’s in the wrong ?!?


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

Class

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

BBC Text:
[Fallout from the Downing Street parties
which took place during coronavirus restrictions continues
to dominate the front pages.
The Sunday Times says Boris Johnson is planning a
raft of "populist" announcements and a clearout of No 10
in a bid to hold onto his premiership.
The paper says the PM is refusing to take responsibility
for the crisis engulfing Downing Street.
A senior government source is quoted as
telling the paper: "Boris's view is that he is not to blame.
That everyone else is to blame."]

He should begin then with himself.
Not try to mislead and deceive again.

He's a disgrace to the office of Prime Minister.
He makes Theresa May look like a competent breath of fresh air.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He should begin then with himself.
Not try to mislead and deceive again.

He's a disgrace to the office of Prime Minister.
He makes Theresa May look like a competent breath of fresh air.

To be fair ‘most’ Labour politicians and voters simply want Boris out as they know that when it comes to the debating and voting Boris always does well so if they can get him out they have a better chance in the polls .

It’s only Labour and the media who are hounding him now .. and the media are just out to find ( and create ) news stories and get views and clicks - all the ones who liked or voted for Boris haven’t turned against him .

You get him out and the new PM gets all the adulation then in a month or do when the news is quiet ... the media will turn on the new person and start looking for the negatives and digging for the dirt on them .

It’s all so bladdy predictable and it’s been like this for over 50 years !!


I guess the only thing different is that millions of people ( including many non voters ) genuinely LIKE Boris as a person .. quite a rarity in politics .


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

To be fair ‘most’ Labour politicians and voters simply want Boris out as they know that when it comes to the debating and voting Boris always does well so if they can get him out they have a better chance in the polls .

It’s only Labour and the media who are hounding him now .. and the media are just out to find ( and create ) news stories and get views and clicks - all the ones who liked or voted for Boris haven’t turned against him .

You get him out and the new PM gets all the adulation then in a month or do when the news is quiet ... the media will turn on the new person and start looking for the negatives and digging for the dirt on them .

It’s all so bladdy predictable and it’s been like this for over 50 years !!


I guess the only thing different is that millions of people ( including many non voters ) genuinely LIKE Boris as a person .. quite a rarity in politics .


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You are incorrect.

I think Johnson should resign but I believe it's now a likely asset to Labour and other opposition parties if he stayed.

For his habitual deceit and misleading he shouldn't stay though.
Plus there's Labour MPs who think him still in place would further be beneficial to the opposition.

Any election campaign with him as leader will have all this scandal of parties hounding the Cons campaign.

A new leader, not tarnished by the partying scandals would likely do much better.
With less reminding of it and the PM it happened under.

I just don't think this habitual deceiver and blatant liar should ever have been PM.
He's an insult to the previous Con PMs there have been.

Even the 2 before him.
That's why I think he should go or be got rid of by his Party.
Even though I believe he'd be now more a liability to the Cons in an election.
More than another leader would be.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are incorrect.

I think Johnson should resign but I believe it's now a likely asset to Labour and other opposition parties if he stayed.

For his habitual deceit and misleading he shouldn't stay though.
Plus there's Labour MPs who think him still in place would further be beneficial to the opposition.

Any election campaign with him as leader will have all this scandal of parties hounding the Cons campaign.

A new leader, not tarnished by the partying scandals would likely do much better.
With less reminding of it and the PM it happened under.

I just don't think this habitual deceiver and blatant liar should ever have been PM.
He's an insult to the previous Con PMs there have been.

Even the 2 before him.
That's why I think he should go or be got rid of by his Party.
Even though I believe he'd be now more a liability to the Cons in an election.
More than another leader would be.

Guess we will have to continually disagree on most things


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[LaLaLand]

Another one!