[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I agree with that, but I did find most of his material in the dark matters video very very funny.

You said this but now pulling Niamh up for agreeing with another post? The precis for the show is

Vegans. Vaginas. Sperm samples. ER oddities. Pedophilia. Alzheimer’s. Parkinson’s. Schizophrenia. Rape. Abortion. The Holocaust. Nothing’s off limits for Carr

Some pretty risque topics that you have said you found very very funny......

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You said this but now pulling Niamh up for agreeing with another post? The precis for the show is

Vegans. Vaginas. Sperm samples. ER oddities. Pedophilia. Alzheimer’s. Parkinson’s. Schizophrenia. Rape. Abortion. The Holocaust. Nothing’s off limits for Carr

Some pretty risque topics that you have said you found very very funny......

His delivery cant be argued with.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You said this but now pulling Niamh up for agreeing with another post? The precis for the show is

Vegans. Vaginas. Sperm samples. ER oddities. Pedophilia. Alzheimer’s. Parkinson’s. Schizophrenia. Rape. Abortion. The Holocaust. Nothing’s off limits for Carr

Some pretty risque topics that you have said you found very very funny......

Oh wow, I actually haven't watched his full show, that's pretty gruesome so maybe I was wrong in thinking he picked travellers as an easy target in that case. I don't think I'll like it but I think I might watch it just to see how the whole show plays out anyway

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agreed with half of her points

Will you never learn... don't even agree with half of anything I say

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Will you never learn... don't even agree with half of anything I say

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh wow, I actually haven't watched his full show, that's pretty gruesome so maybe I was wrong in thinking he picked travellers as an easy target in that case. I don't think I'll like it but I think I might watch it just to see how the whole show plays out anyway

Jimmy Carr has always been like that ,the same with Ricky Gervais.

If nothing is off limits then it's pretty much like the TV show Family Guy with the humour. I'm not even surprised tbh.

[Niamh.]

Ricky Gervais is hilarious though

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Jimmy Carr has always been like that ,the same with Ricky Gervais.



If nothing is off limits then it's pretty much like the TV show Family Guy with the humour. I'm not even surprised tbh.

Like I said it can be down to the skill of the delivery though. So for example, things are just as "off limits" in South Park as they are in Family Guy but the SP writers have frankly 10x the skill, nuance and ability to weave a social commentary and so South Park's satire pretty much always hits its mark these days (though wasn't as sharp in its early seasons) , where Family Guy has had its moments but for the most part is a scattershot of stuff that often misses the mark completely.

To use your other examples in this post; Gervais is a FAR more skilled satirist and social commentator than Carr. Especially with more recent stuff. In fact I reckon he could have landed this exact same joke without half the controversy and as a much clearer commentary than Carr.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ricky Gervais is hilarious though

Yeah I've always preferred his comedy, he's strangely good at serious stuff aswell where there's both comedy & drama like 'Derek' & 'Afterlife'.

[glib]

Jimmy carr is a thin balding little twerp in a suit who need to **** off

[Vicky.]

I dont know how I feel about certain topics being off limits in comedy tbh, I dont really think anything should be as long as its done right. However if you are just picking 'easy' 'targets' then you are a bit of a knob really. I don't really watch comedy stuff besides Dave Chapelle these days though so my opinion is probably worth **** all

[arista]

On the Bottom of page 2
a twitter link has the Joke uncut.

The Audience Laughed



For this Netflix show
it is typical of his style

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Like I said it can be down to the skill of the delivery though. So for example, things are just as "off limits" in South Park as they are in Family Guy but the SP writers have frankly 10x the skill, nuance and ability to weave a social commentary and so South Park's satire pretty much always hits its mark these days (though wasn't as sharp in its early seasons) , where Family Guy has had its moments but for the most part is a scattershot of stuff that often misses the mark completely.

To use your other examples in this post; Gervais is a FAR more skilled satirist and social commentator than Carr. Especially with more recent stuff. In fact I reckon he could have landed this exact same joke without half the controversy and as a much clearer commentary than Carr.

I'm confused by this, if the same joke is told how could it without causing offence?
The difference is the delivery, Carr's style is deadpan that's what his fans expect. If you told it in the rambling monologue we would expect from Gervais it just wouldn't be the same joke.
But the subject and the premise is the same.

[Livia]

Of we censor comedy and judge people who laugh at questionable.jokes, how.long till we're burning books we don't approve of?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of we censor comedy and judge people who laugh at questionable.jokes, how.long till we're burning books we don't approve of?

with the upcoming one from Prince Harry in the pipeline

hopefully soon

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

with the upcoming one from Prince Harry in the pipeline

hopefully soon

That's fair comment... Maybe we can just burn that one.

[Kizzy]

The only books that have ever been burned are anti establishment and/or ordered by the establishment. Everything else is fair game.

[Livia]

That's what the Nazis said.

[Kizzy]

Nope they didn't. .. I just said it now.

It's all fun and games until the group being mocked is one you are in, then it's offensive. Unless you have achieved protected status and the joke sees them 'cancelled'.

[bitontheslide]

a book appearing in pound land is the equivalent of a burning these days

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope they didn't. .. I just said it now.

It's all fun and games until the group being mocked is one you are in, then it's offensive. Unless you have achieved protected status and the joke sees them 'cancelled'.

That's a good point Kizzy.

And it was only later on some of us found out Jimmy Carr being Jimmy Carr was joking about alot of other risque subjects by looks ,which I'm not surprised at. Because as we know there's comedians who have a 'nothing is off limits' humour.

And Jimmy loves the controversy , so he'll do his dead pan ventriloquist dummy face or he'll laugh like a seal . That's what he's known for.

[Kizzy]

Lots do, Ricky Gervais is shocking in his live shows, Frank Boyle, Stewart Lee, they are known for being Unfiltered.

Are we really so upset about this jibe at travellers, Why..has anyone actually stopped and asked why this is the news story of the week? I see this as a welcome diversion by the media to avoid other issues.
Not saying it shouldn't be spoken about but the whole spin smacks of a diversion tactic.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah Frankie Boyle is terrible,I've never liked his humour.

His 'joke' about Katie Price's Son Harvey, was grotesque and not funny. You'd think joking about a disabled child would be off limits but not for him. And he never got cancelled , he's still popular than ever.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah Frankie Boyle is terrible,I've never liked his humour.

His 'joke' about Katie Price's Son Harvey, was grotesque and not funny. You'd think joking about a disabled child would be off limits but not for him. And he never got cancelled , he's still popular than ever.

Do you know why?... Because he is Katie Prices son, she is held up for ridicule because it's acceptable to mock her.
In the same way as travellers are, she is seen as in some way 'less than'.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah Frankie Boyle is terrible,I've never liked his humour.



His 'joke' about Katie Price's Son Harvey, was grotesque and not funny. You'd think joking about a disabled child would be off limits but not for him. And he never got cancelled , he's still popular than ever.

Not only that but he had the cheek a few years later to say a joke Ricky Gervais made about Caitlin Jenner was too far and "low hanging fruit"!

I do agree though that was one of the worst I've heard simply because he wasn't joking about a group or an adult who put themselves in the spotlight but an individual disabled child, that could be considered bullying imo