[Cherie]

Has the name leaked yet?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Has the name leaked yet?

No.
Kicked into the long grass....................

The Online Paper

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

how many times now have mps been found to be behaving inappropriately, whether it be expenses, flouting rules, corruption or whatever. They don't do anything until they are caught. The good standing and morality of those that are elected to represent us is just not up to scratch

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It is apparently a government minister

Get your bets in people

What a surprise ..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

No.
Kicked into the long grass....................

The Online Paper

They would like to.... can't see this going away though.

[Oliver_W]

As someone who basically doesn't trust or like any politician, I wouldn't actually be surprised if Rayner did use that mildly crude distraction technique - but I also don't care, and the witch-hunt is totally unnecessary.

The watching of porn in parliament and especially the sexual harassment are actual problems.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

As someone who basically trusts or likes virtually any politician, I wouldn't actually be surprised if Rayner did use that mildly crude distraction technique - but I also don't care, and the witch-hunt is totally unnecessary.

The watching of porn in parliament and especially the sexual harassment are actual problems.

How odd ..

I’m basically the opposite where I dislike and distrust all politicians


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

How odd ..

I’m basically the opposite where I dislike and distrust all politicians


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Oops fixing now

[Cherie]

something is up, it went from that they knew the name and Theo Usherwood handing the name to James O Brien on air to LBC reporting that the women had not named the man ....mmmm

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

They would like to.... can't see this going away though.

Yes Many Press already have the Conservative MP
Dirty buggers name.


Maybe they want to get the Local Elections
5th of May Thursday,
next week , done first?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

something is up, it went from that they knew the name and Theo Usherwood handing the name to James O Brien on air to LBC reporting that the women had not named the man ....mmmm

Whatever is happening I’m sure Starmer will demand that Boris resigns again


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[bitontheslide]

it will be the local elections, none of the media will want to break the law

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris Johnson has contacted Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner to make clear that he views claims about her in a Sunday newspaper misogynistic.

Politicians have condemned the suggestion Ms Rayner tries to distract the prime minister in the Commons by crossing and uncrossing her legs.

The Mail on Sunday said some unnamed Conservative MPs had made the claim.

Ms Rayner dismissed this as a "perverted smear" that showed women in politics faced misogyny every day.

On Sunday Mr Johnson criticised the comments tweeting: "As much as I disagree with Angela Rayner on almost every political issue, I respect her as a parliamentarian and deplore the misogyny directed at her anonymously today."

A Downing Street source confirmed to the BBC that the prime minister had contacted Ms Rayner privately by text message to reiterate what he said in his public tweet.

BBC chief political correspondent Adam Fleming said that the texts between the two were in their "inimitable" styles, according to a source.

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves told BBC Breakfast that "instead of just tweeting, the prime minister needs to get his house in order" and ensure that his MPs did not think they had "carte blanche to be saying this sort of thing".

"This is endemic," she added, saying that she did not think there was a single female MP or staff member in the House of Commons who did not have their own stories of misogyny or sexism.

She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the claims were "absolutely outrageous", and said it was indicative of a wider issue in Parliament.

"To be honest I am sick and tired of the way that female MPs and women are treated in Parliament and if this story and this outrageous slur on Angela gets things changed that would be a good thing."

Downing Street will not be asking for an inquiry into who made the comments to the Mail on Sunday, with a source saying this was because such inquiries rarely found the person in question.

A raft of politicians, including female Tory MPs, have also spoken out in support of Ms Rayner.

Conservative Caroline Nokes said too many female MPs of all parties had been "on receiving end of vile articles", while former minister Andrea Leadsom tweeted: "Really sorry Angela. Totally unacceptable comments and reporting."

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said: "The sexism and misogyny peddled by the Tories is a disgraceful new low from a party mired in scandal and chaos."

The article - which has now been changed to headline on deputy Labour leader Ms Rayner's response on Twitter - quoted unnamed Conservative MPs claiming she would cross and uncross her legs when opposite the PM at the dispatch box in the Commons to distract him.

A host of MPs have since come out to not only condemn the suggestion made but also the tone of the newspaper's reporting.

And Ms Nokes - who chairs the women and equalities committee - confirmed on Twitter that she had contacted the Commons Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, to ask if the political editor who wrote the piece should have a press pass for Parliament.

The newspaper article said: "Tory MPs have mischievously suggested that Ms Rayner likes to distract the PM when he is in the dispatch box by deploying a fully-clothed Parliamentary equivalent of Sharon Stone's infamous scene in the 1992 film Basic Instinct."

The paper added: "It is also suggested she employs the tactic when sitting next to Sir Keir when he faces Mr Johnson at PMQs".

The piece quotes one MP as saying: "She knows she can't compete with Boris's Oxford Union debating training, but she has other skills which he lacks.

"She has admitted as much when enjoying drinks with us on the [Commons] terrace."

The article also described the Labour MP's background as "a grandmother who left school at 16 while pregnant and with no qualifications before becoming a care worker".

Ms Rayner condemned the article in a thread on Twitter as "gutter journalism", and accused the sources of "spreading desperate, perverted smears in their doomed attempts to save [Mr Johnson's] skin" amid the partygate scandal.

She added: "I won't be letting their vile lies deter me. Their attempts to harass and intimidate me will fail.

"I hope this experience doesn't put off a single person like me, with a background like mine from aspiring to participate in public life. That would break my heart."

The report led to a huge backlash on social media and support for the Labour deputy leader.

Scotland's First Minister and SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon tweeted: "Solidarity from across the political divide to Angela Rayner on this.

"It's a reminder of the deep misogyny women face every day."

Liberal Democrat MP Munira Wilson described it as a "disgraceful story", saying: "I can't even believe it made it into print."

Labour's shadow leader of the Commons, Thangam Debbonaire, added: "This all shows we need more women in politics and that when we work together, we are mighty and fearsome and some pathetic men feel threatened by it."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61213711

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unbelievable in this day and age that a newspaper would print such trash

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[bitontheslide]

thats missing the point zizu, even if she did make such a comment, that is self mockery, it doesn't make it right for someone else to say it. Think of the n word and who is allowed to say it and who is not

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

thats missing the point zizu, even if she did make such a comment, that is self mockery, it doesn't make it right for someone else to say it. Think of the n word and who is allowed to say it and who is not

I can obviously see your point but ...

How do we know for sure that it was self mockery... it could well have been a deliberate ploy for all we know .. she is well aware of Boris’s liking of the female form and after all is said and done ... she’s hardly been a shrinking violet over the years.

Which is worse .. some reporter commenting on it or actually doing it ?

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[bitontheslide]

my mp was caught with his trousers down and his willy out in his office at the HoC and, years later, he is still my MP

[arista]

A Scottish MP
warned who not to get close to.

[LeatherTrumpet]

The person who said this was in fact Rayner herself

According to one MP who was part of the group, ‘she said, “I like to do my Sharon Stone trick. I cross and uncross my legs and give him a flash of my ginger gash [a vulgar and offensive colloquialism].’ A second MP, who was with the group, also recalled hearing her use the phrase.

As Rayner was making the joke, another MP joined the group. She told me: ‘I didn’t hear the whole thing, but I remember hearing her say those words.’ A fourth MP said: ‘Angela was telling us how she distracts Boris.’ They too confirmed the use of the vulgar colloquialism. So four MPs all heard Rayner use exactly the same words.

In response to what everyone recognised was a racy but light-hearted aside, Rayner’s colleagues laughed, and carried on smoking. Then they all went their way.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...e-told-it.html

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my mp was caught with his trousers down and his willy out in his office at the HoC and, years later, he is still my MP

[Liam-]