Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 26-05-2022, 10:08 AM #776
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,968
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,968
Default

Kate Moss was great
proving Amber talks utter rubbish.
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:09 AM #777
Vanessa's Avatar
Vanessa Vanessa is offline
The Italian Job
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 104,676

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Vanessa Vanessa is offline
The Italian Job
Vanessa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 104,676

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Kate Moss was great
proving Amber talks utter rubbish.
I cheered
__________________
Vanessa is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:10 AM #778
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,968
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 165,968
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa View Post
I cheered

Yes
Nice of her to give her time,



It Concludes tomorrow


Johnny is the Winner
arista is online now   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:12 AM #779
Vanessa's Avatar
Vanessa Vanessa is offline
The Italian Job
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 104,676

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Vanessa Vanessa is offline
The Italian Job
Vanessa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 104,676

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Default

Its very hard to prove a defamation case.
I personally can't see either of them winning their lawsuits.
But at least now the world knows everything.
Not just Amber version of it.
__________________
Vanessa is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:18 AM #780
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa View Post
Its very hard to prove a defamation case.
I personally can't see either of them winning their lawsuits.
But at least now the world knows everything.
Not just Amber version of it.
I think that with all the support Johnny has got that he will be OK. Got to ask yourself why the majority of people support him with everything we have heard and seen.

As for Amber, I can't see any publication, production company etc wanting to touch her with a bargepole. If someone is instantly disliked by the majority then why would they want to use her, they just wouldn't. Good popularity sells and makes money.

Last edited by ThomasC; 26-05-2022 at 10:19 AM.
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:24 AM #781
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu View Post
You get the ‘Tourette’s’ - ‘Bollox’ joke I hope



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Who knows maybe he has tourrettes when he types..


"I have no mercy, no fear and not an ounce of emotion, or what I once thought was love for this gold digging, low level, dime a dozen, mushy, pointless dangling overused flappy fish market... I'm so f---ing happy she wants to fight this out!!! She will hit the wall hard!!! And I cannot wait to have this waste of a c-- guzzler out of my life!!!" read the message.

Continuing, the text message referred to Heard as a "50 cent stripper" "I wouldn't touch her with a goddam glove. I can only hope that karma kicks in and takes the gift of breath from her."
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:29 AM #782
Vanessa's Avatar
Vanessa Vanessa is offline
The Italian Job
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 104,676

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Vanessa Vanessa is offline
The Italian Job
Vanessa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: London
Posts: 104,676

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Yinrun
CBB18: Christopher Biggins


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasC View Post
I think that with all the support Johnny has got that he will be OK. Got to ask yourself why the majority of people support him with everything we have heard and seen.

As for Amber, I can't see any publication, production company etc wanting to touch her with a bargepole. If someone is instantly disliked by the majority then why would they want to use her, they just wouldn't. Good popularity sells and makes money.
And Robert Downey Junior wants him in his next Sherlock Holmes movie. Brilliant!
__________________
Vanessa is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:38 AM #783
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
Who knows maybe he has tourrettes when he types..


"I have no mercy, no fear and not an ounce of emotion, or what I once thought was love for this gold digging, low level, dime a dozen, mushy, pointless dangling overused flappy fish market... I'm so f---ing happy she wants to fight this out!!! She will hit the wall hard!!! And I cannot wait to have this waste of a c-- guzzler out of my life!!!" read the message.

Continuing, the text message referred to Heard as a "50 cent stripper" "I wouldn't touch her with a goddam glove. I can only hope that karma kicks in and takes the gift of breath from her."
Yep, he was very angry as he admitted. I think I would be of o had been accused of something I didn't do.
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:42 AM #784
bitontheslide's Avatar
bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,667

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


bitontheslide bitontheslide is offline
self-oscillating
bitontheslide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45,667

Favourites:
BB2023: Noky
BB19: Sian


Default

it's got to be finishing soon
bitontheslide is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:42 AM #785
Liam-'s Avatar
Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,018

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Liam- Liam- is offline
Senior Member
Liam-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cardiff.
Posts: 23,018

Favourites (more):
BB19: Lewis F
CBB21: Shane Jenek


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide View Post
it's got to be finishing soon
Goes to the jury tomorrow
__________________
Liam- is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:47 AM #786
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam- View Post
Goes to the jury tomorrow
And I'm working!!

I wish I was academically gifted and could become a lawyer.

Very competitive industry and a lot of hard work.
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:50 AM #787
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasC View Post
Yep, he was very angry as he admitted. I think I would be of o had been accused of something I didn't do.
Me being shocked that ThomasC thinks those comments about women are acceptable from a man "so long as he's angry enough";

Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 10:58 AM #788
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasC View Post
Yep, he was very angry as he admitted. I think I would be of o had been accused of something I didn't do.
Hes a different man to the one we see on screen when he gets angry.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:00 AM #789
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Last time I know of him getting angry was when an old business colleague was about to sue him for something to do with the viper rooms..poor bloke ain't been seen since!!
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:05 AM #790
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
Hes a different man to the one we see on screen when he gets angry.
Ummmm ok
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:12 AM #791
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasC View Post
Ummmm ok
You're confused, about something blatantly obvious.

Strange.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:34 AM #792
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
Me being shocked that ThomasC thinks those comments about women are acceptable from a man "so long as he's angry enough";

I didn't say that I think they're acceptable. They're your words, not mine. I don't know why you're quoting your own words as I didn't say what you quoted.

I said that he was very angry and that I would be too if I had been accused of something I did not do or felt I didn't do.

People are human and say stuff when they are really angry.

I do not excuse what he said or think it is anyway acceptable. I think his words are deragatory and disgusting. Do I understand what might have made him say them? Yes I do. I have empathy and understanding as to what might have lead him to say them, but do not think they are acceptable and neither do I think Johnny thinks they are either as he explained.
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:35 AM #793
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion View Post
You're confused, about something blatantly obvious.

Strange.
I'm confused as to your comment as what he displays on screen comes from a script and director etc.

It's not comparable to being excused of something he feels he hasn't done. Unless he's previously been cast in a film where he has been excused of such serious allegations.
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:44 AM #794
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,328

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,328

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasC View Post
I didn't say that I think they're acceptable. They're your words, not mine. I don't know why you're quoting your own words as I didn't say what you quoted.

I said that he was very angry and that I would be too if I had been accused of something I did not do or felt I didn't do.

People are human and say stuff when they are really angry.

I do not excuse what he said or think it is anyway acceptable. I think his words are deragatory and disgusting. Do I understand what might have made him say them? Yes I do. I have empathy and understanding as to what might have lead him to say them, but do not think they are acceptable and neither do I think Johnny thinks they are either as he explained.
It's interesting how misogyny is seen as understandable if a man is angry enough. Do you think if he became racist or homophobic if someone made him angry you'd be as tolerant and understanding towards him?
__________________

Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.
Niamh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:55 AM #795
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
It's interesting how misogyny is seen as understandable if a man is angry enough. Do you think if he became racist or homophobic if someone made him angry you'd be as tolerant and understanding towards him?

It’s not just that, it’s that anger isn’t going to create a thought. “I got so angry that I lost control of myself and insisted that the moon is square!!” …

You can get so angry that things you’ve been keeping under control bubble to the surface and come out; and yes you can regret that loss of control. You can’t however claim that those thoughts weren’t already present. “Being angry” doesn’t create a worldview. It just lets the mask slip.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:55 AM #796
parmnion's Avatar
parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


parmnion parmnion is offline
Senior Member
parmnion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: scotland
Posts: 41,654

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Hallie
BB18: Deborah


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasC View Post
I'm confused as to your comment as what he displays on screen comes from a script and director etc.

It's not comparable to being excused of something he feels he hasn't done. Unless he's previously been cast in a film where he has been excused of such serious allegations.
But most of depps acting roles involve him method acting, thus bringing his own take on the role he is playing, Edward scissor hands and of course jack sparrow, along with willy Wonka spring to mind straight away. It's well known the character he brought to proceedings was depp method acting without prompting from the directors.

Depps film persona, and the occasional talk show appearances are the only times we have seen and heard him, so it's really the only way we know him.

So that is why I can only say about him being a different character on film, as its rhe only compatible thing to compare him with his actual self.
parmnion is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 11:59 AM #797
Niamh.'s Avatar
Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,328

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Niamh. Niamh. is offline
I Love my brick
Niamh.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ireland-The peoples Republic of Cork!
Posts: 142,328

Favourites (more):
BB19: Cian
IAC2018: Rita Simons


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
It’s not just that, it’s that anger isn’t going to create a thought. “I got so angry that I lost control of myself and insisted that the moon is square!!” …

You can get so angry that things you’ve been keeping under control bubble to the surface and come out; and yes you can regret that loss of control. You can’t however claim that those thoughts weren’t already present. “Being angry” doesn’t create a worldview. It just lets the mask slip.
Exactly. I've never accidentally had a racist out burst when I got angry because it's just not something I would do or say ever, sure I have said things I regretted saying out loud in anger but it was always something that on some level I did think/believe
__________________

Spoiler:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GiRTh View Post
You compare Jim Davidson to Nelson Mandela?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus. View Post
I know, how stupid? He's more like Gandhi.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14 View Post



Katie Hopkins reveals epilepsy made her suicidal - and says she identifies as a MAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livia View Post
Just because she is a giant cock, doesn't make her a man.
Niamh. is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 12:16 PM #798
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh. View Post
It's interesting how misogyny is seen as understandable if a man is angry enough. Do you think if he became racist or homophobic if someone made him angry you'd be as tolerant and understanding towards him?
Misogyny? I don't think he hates women, he probably hates Amber Heard for what he says she has done. She just happens to be a woman.

No I would not be as tolerant or understanding, but they're different. What would homophobia and race have to do with alleged domestic violence?
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 12:20 PM #799
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
ThomasC ThomasC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Posts: 1,209
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier View Post
It’s not just that, it’s that anger isn’t going to create a thought. “I got so angry that I lost control of myself and insisted that the moon is square!!” …

You can get so angry that things you’ve been keeping under control bubble to the surface and come out; and yes you can regret that loss of control. You can’t however claim that those thoughts weren’t already present. “Being angry” doesn’t create a worldview. It just lets the mask slip.
I disagree. We can all say spur of the moment things when we're angry, things we haven't thought, said or feel before.if we discover something about someone that we didn't previously know then you're going to be full of new emotions

We're not pre-programmed with thoughts all the time.

Last edited by ThomasC; 26-05-2022 at 12:21 PM.
ThomasC is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 26-05-2022, 12:23 PM #800
Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Toy Soldier Toy Soldier is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 30,350


Default Anyone following the Amber and Johnny trial?

You don’t think “Low level, dime a dozen, mushy, pointless dangling overused flappy fish market” or “waste of a cum guzzler“ are misogynistic? I can’t imagine anyone genuinely believes these are not examples of misogyny.

Also he tipped his hand in that message with one phrase; “low level”. That’s ****ing Redpill/Incel rhetoric through and through. It’s basically the foundation of their thoughts about women and hierarchies of “worth”.

Redpill forums are heavily into “justice for Johnny”, of course.

Last edited by Toy Soldier; 26-05-2022 at 12:26 PM.
Toy Soldier is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
amber, johnny, trial


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:52 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts