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Meanwhile back in the states Amber had some humble pie washed down with some sour grape juice

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Not six cans of the old wife beater...didnt anyone tell him!
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the gigging rock band scene is exactly up Depp's street. He can get out of his mind on drink and drugs and trash hotels all he likes .... it's rock n roll mate
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the gigging rock band scene is exactly up Depp's street. He can get out of his mind on drink and drugs and trash hotels all he likes .... it's rock n roll mate

A pity he was reportedly a **** guitar player even before he cut his finger off.
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Why are you yawning? You clearly think that women should expect to be on the receiving end of male aggression if they’re “pushing buttons” or “pecking away”. That’s what you’re saying, quite openly. I strongly disagree.

I wonder if you also agreed with Sean Connery when he boldly stated in an interview that hysterical women sometimes need a little slap? I know plenty of people did.

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You’ve seen people say it’s ok to be violent, aggressive and intimidating and you’ve ignored (three times) me pointing out that smashing objects and throwing one’s weight around is legally considered a form of domestic abuse. The “yeah but we didn’t see him actually hit her” means precisely zilch.

Errrr. No we haven’t !
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I look at social media but I make up[ my own mind. You are way more biased than I could ever be.
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A pity he was reportedly a **** guitar player even before he cut his finger off.
Interesting point. Glad you raised it. Heard claimed he cut it off himself but didn't go into much detail. Claimed she was a bit out of it and cant fully remember.

No way would a musician, never mind a guitarist cut of his own finger. Its just not believable no matter what state he was in. He would have to use his less dominant hand to cut off the finger on his dominant hand. Its not believable..
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Interesting point. Glad you raised it. Heard claimed he cut it off himself but didn't go into much detail. Claimed she was a bit out of it and cant fully remember.

No way would a musician, never mind a guitarist cut of his own finger. Its just not believable no matter what state he was in. He would have to use his less dominant hand to cut off the finger on his dominant hand. Its not believable..


I dont think she said that he meant to cut it off, just that he cut it off.
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I dont think she said that he meant to cut it off, just that he cut it off.
She has said it but not under oath.
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Interesting point. Glad you raised it. Heard claimed he cut it off himself but didn't go into much detail. Claimed she was a bit out of it and cant fully remember.

No way would a musician, never mind a guitarist cut of his own finger. Its just not believable no matter what state he was in. He would have to use his less dominant hand to cut off the finger on his dominant hand. Its not believable..

She (and in turn, I) never said he cut it off on purpose. That lie (along with the reasoning for why it must be a lie) was another piece of misinformation frequently peddled on Social Media to undermine what she was saying though. Funny that. So many people coincidentally getting the wrong ends of the same sticks without being led into it . A mystery wrapped in an enigma.

As I said earlier in the thread I think the most likely explanation (given the kitchen video) was that he was smashing glasses and bottles (like in the kitchen video) and slamming his hands on objects in anger (like in the kitchen video) and in the process, slammed his finger onto an upturned piece of broken glass and severed it. Pure peculation of course, but given that we know the above mentioned behaviours to be things that he did (thanks to the kitchen video) it makes a fair bit more sense to me than his fingertip being cleanly severed on the bone by a flying bottle.

Full truth on it though? I’d bet that they were both off their faces and in chaos and neither of them have a ****ing clue how he lost the finger.
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Tbh going off the evidence the correct verdict was given.

The people defending Amber Heard because of the believe all women argument would ironically have let an abuser off the hook just because the abuser was a woman.

In these domestic abuse cases it's best to always follow the evidence rather than political agendas, or who's your favourite actor.

I'm glad that the circus is over now anyway as it felt more like a Big Brother eviction than a defamation trial.
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You mean yesterday? Like what?

I think he thought he was quoting me. Poor Zizu has become confused. Maybe he’s frustrated. I hope no one has pushed his buttons? Might understandably kick off and start trashing his kitchen . What else is a fellow to do?
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Tbh going off the evidence the correct verdict was given.

The people defending Amber Heard because of the believe all women argument would ironically have let an abuser off the hook just because the abuser was a woman.

In these domestic abuse cases it's best to always follow the evidence rather than political agendas, or who's your favourite actor.

I'm glad that the circus is over now anyway as it felt more like a Big Brother eviction than a defamation trial.

Do you mean evidence like the video of Johnny Depp being abusive? There was next to no solid evidence for either of them. That video was one of the only pieces of physical evidence. The rest was down to their own testimony and witness statements so purely down to who was more convincing - not “the evidence” at all.
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This was not a criminal trial by the way - “let an abuser off the hook”? Amber Heard has not been found guilty of abusing Johnny Depp, no matter what the zeitgeist is feeding you. The verdict even if taken as correct says she committed libel by accusing HIM of domestic abuse. It says NOTHING AT ALL about any accusations against her.
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She (and in turn, I) never said he cut it off on purpose. That lie (along with the reasoning for why it must be a lie) was another piece of misinformation frequently peddled on Social Media to undermine what she was saying though. Funny that. So many people coincidentally getting the wrong ends of the same sticks without being led into it . A mystery wrapped in an enigma.

As I said earlier in the thread I think the most likely explanation (given the kitchen video) was that he was smashing glasses and bottles (like in the kitchen video) and slamming his hands on objects in anger (like in the kitchen video) and in the process, slammed his finger onto an upturned piece of broken glass and severed it. Pure peculation of course, but given that we know the above mentioned behaviours to be things that he did (thanks to the kitchen video) it makes a fair bit more sense to me than his fingertip being cleanly severed on the bone by a flying bottle.

Full truth on it though? I’d bet that they were both off their faces and in chaos and neither of them have a ****ing clue how he lost the finger.
The story is out there. I've seen it in the independent. You keep blaming social media but there are a few claims made about Depp that have been unsubstantiated. Heard too.

The Vodka bottle story is far fetched but I point to what I said earlier. When he tells the story he tells it well and is convincing. He looks down to motion where Heard was standing when she flung the bottle. He always illustrates the first bottle flying past his head with his hand and makes that noise - Whoosh - every single time. He's consistent.

Even little details like he says the bottle smashed behind him, not smashed 'on the wall behind' because if he's living this in first person from his point of view, at that moment he didn't know what it smashed on.

Maybe he''s told the story so many times that he's nailed it but if its all a lie, little embellishments like the noise the bottle made as it passed his head would have gone the third of fourth time he told it. He seems to be telling the story as he remembers it.
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One more thing, when Depp explains how the 2nd bottle exploded like Vesuvius/lava - I've seen him say both - He's clearly exaggerating.
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The story is out there. I've seen it in the independent. You keep blaming social media but there are a few claims made about Depp that have been unsubstantiated. Heard too.

The Vodka bottle story is far fetched but I point to what I said earlier. When he tells the story he tells it well and is convincing. He looks down to motion where Heard was standing when she flung the bottle. He always illustrates the first bottle flying past his head with his hand and makes that noise - Whoosh - every single time. He's consistent.

Even little details like he says the bottle smashed behind him, not smashed 'on the wall behind' because if he's living this in first person from his point of view, at that moment he didn't know what it smashed on.

Maybe he''s told the story so many times that he's nailed it but if its all a lie, little embellishments like the noise the bottle made as it passed his head would have gone the third of fourth time he told it. He seems to be telling the story as he remembers it.

We disagree again; a story being identical every time it’s told is indicative of it being rehearsed. A better (still not perfect) way to pick out a memory from a rehearsed lie is for the pertinent details of the story to always remain consistent, but for the way the story is told to CHANGE, indicating that the person is wording it as it comes to mind but still explaining the details consistently. If the wording is always the same, the wording isn’t being generated in the moment from the memory. That “whoosh” and always using the same gestures tells me the exact opposite of what it tells you. He’s memorised a script for his version of events.
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Here’s another counter, though I’d suggest not testing it out:

Consider how fast a bottle would have to be moving to make a literal whooshing sound as it passes your head. Is his story that she fired it out of a cannon?
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When two people are taking the stand with differing accounts of the same events and the effect of those events, of course their acting ability comes into it

Plus the little matter of evidence and witness statements ..neither seem to be in the remotest bit important to you


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The story is out there. I've seen it in the independent. You keep blaming social media but there are a few claims made about Depp that have been unsubstantiated. Heard too.

The Vodka bottle story is far fetched but I point to what I said earlier. When he tells the story he tells it well and is convincing. He looks down to motion where Heard was standing when she flung the bottle. He always illustrates the first bottle flying past his head with his hand and makes that noise - Whoosh - every single time. He's consistent.

Even little details like he says the bottle smashed behind him, not smashed 'on the wall behind' because if he's living this in first person from his point of view, at that moment he didn't know what it smashed on.

Maybe he''s told the story so many times that he's nailed it but if its all a lie, little embellishments like the noise the bottle made as it passed his head would have gone the third of fourth time he told it. He seems to be telling the story as he remembers it.
Its almost like he's used to learning lines verbatim and being able to recite them whilst acting out the scene so the audience lives it with him. He should be an actor......wait...
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We disagree again; a story being identical every time it’s told is indicative of it being rehearsed. A better (still not perfect) way to pick out a memory from a rehearsed lie is for the pertinent details of the story to always remain consistent, but for the way the story is told to CHANGE, indicating that the person is wording it as it comes to mind but still explaining the details consistently. If the wording is always the same, the wording isn’t being generated in the moment from the memory. That “whoosh” and always using the same gestures tells me the exact opposite of what it tells you. He’s memorised a script for his version of events.
That's quite a leap. A story told the same way every time must be a lie.

You ignore his baseline and his illustrators and go for gut feeling because he's a good actor.
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