[arista]

The 10AM Live Show
with the Pathetic Left Winger


Thinks we are leading to Fascism?



He then admitted he had to give up his other job
on BBC Newsnight as he was told off for calling
Early Trump, Fascism.



The Same Topic
is on BBC2HD Early Politics Live
but they do not call it
Fascism at all.



It is all about the Northern Ireland Problem
of not allowing UK goods to them,

[The Slim Reaper]

It's not really the use of the word patriot, it's the fact she was asked an intelligent question, and the fact she had absolutely no way to answer the question other than by resorting to the language of authoritarians.

We have a proto fascist government which can still be reversed with elections. If the tories win the next general, then there may not be free elections for a long time.

[Toy Soldier]

There's nothing wrong with the word patriot generally, it is however used frequently these days as a mask for something that is not really "patriotism" at all (ethnocentric jingoism).

[Oliver_W]

How intellectually derelict would someone need to be to associate (non-extreme) patriotism with fascism?

[The Slim Reaper]

Definitely not worrying...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How intellectually derelict would someone need to be to associate (non-extreme) patriotism with fascism?

The question wouldn't be surrounding the extremes or the clear examples though... it's that "fuzzy boundary area" in the middle where one becomes the other, the plausible deniability of claiming extreme nationalism to be simple patriotism, and vice-versa the branding of ultimately benign patriotic tendancies as fascism.

There inevitably MUST be a "tipping point" where the consensus flips from one to the other. Hard to point to exactly where that is, though. There will be wildly differing opinions.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Definitely not worrying...

Nothing says patriotism quite like legally silencing those speaking against government policy

[Toy Soldier]

There is a fair bit of modern confusion that patriotism = supporting the active government and government policy, which is of course not patriotism at all. A true patriot would strongly oppose any government that they feel is damaging their country. I think this is something that ultimately they DO seem to understand stateside but we struggle with here in the UK. "Not supporting Boris and the Tories" is viewed as unpatriotic...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Definitely not worrying...

The heck? A bunch of elderly men yelling at clouds don't require police action. Leave them alone!

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Definitely not worrying...

Bollocks Slim

I am sick of Steve

Miserable Git


I would take his Bell as well.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by arista

Bollocks Slim

I am sick of Steve

Miserable Git


I would take his Bell as well.

Of course you would, because you don’t believe in actual freedom

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Of course you would, because you don’t believe in actual freedom

I do believe in Freedom.



But I do not want him Hovering round a Live Reporter
While they are interviewing MP's and Business Leaders
at the Westminster green.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by arista

I do believe in Freedom.



But I do not want him Hovering round a Live Reporter
While they are interviewing MP's and Business Leaders
at the Westminster green.

That’s part of his freedom buddy

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That’s part of his freedom buddy

No they have Laws in Westminster

Best to Lock him up.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by arista

No they have Laws in Westminster

Best to Lock him up.

You want to lock him up for peacefully protesting? You know what that makes you right?

[LeatherTrumpet]

i know where i would stick that twats bell

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

You want to lock him up for peacefully protesting? You know what that makes you right?

No I have seen him
He is Aggressive,


Big Bully

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

No I have seen him
He is Aggressive,


Big Bully

Did the speaking man scare you?

[arista]

No, I moved past him.

[arista]

Steve Bray was just on BBCnewsHD

He has to go to Court soon
to try to get his Amp back.

He is Stupid

He was a breaking the Law

He will now be considered for prosecution.



How Very Nice.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's not really the use of the word patriot, it's the fact she was asked an intelligent question, and the fact she had absolutely no way to answer the question other than by resorting to the language of authoritarians.

We have a proto fascist government which can still be reversed with elections. If the tories win the next general, then there may not be free elections for a long time.

Tbh with the way the UK media targets the Labour candidates, our elections are barely democratic.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Definitely not worrying...

Isn't it supposed to be legal to peacefully protest in this country?

I swear with each day I feel like we're going backwards.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Isn't it supposed to be legal to peacefully protest in this country?

I swear with each day I feel like we're going backwards.

Rubbish
he had Massive Loud Amp/Speaker

Close to Parliament
He had fair warning to move away,


He can go to Court soon.


Even the BBC told him he was breaking the Law.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is a fair bit of modern confusion that patriotism = supporting the active government and government policy, which is of course not patriotism at all. A true patriot would strongly oppose any government that they feel is damaging their country. I think this is something that ultimately they DO seem to understand stateside but we struggle with here in the UK. "Not supporting Boris and the Tories" is viewed as unpatriotic...

Exactly - I've not supported a single government from my life, because I feel patriotic, and these horrible crooks are ruining my country

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Exactly - I've not supported a single government from my life, because I feel patriotic, and these horrible crooks are ruining my country

I was always thankful to Blair and Labour looking back, without them i don't think myself and mum would of been housed and taken care of like we was when my dad up and left. Shame Blair turned out to be a dick in the end. As a centralist though, i'll always lean more left and will vote for Labour in the future im sure. I feel like Bojo and his lot are even worse than Cameron and co. Anyway....

Wouldn't say im patriotic, hate the monarchy in this country, but i am very thankful to this country at the same time. Not many better places to live in this world when you think about it.