[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Starmer doesn't have any control of his party, thats obvious. He doesn't have a clue about labour policy and his mp's just do as they please

So stupid of him to say it.


No Wonder the Left Winger 10AM show
made it an item.

He said Labour think if they stand
with strikers,
Labour could then lose the General Election


Starmer appears to be New Labour Style

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

It’s very hard for a party to follow the line when the leader has no idea what he stands for himself, the mans a shambles, he conned his way into the leadership position and now he just goes a little off centre whichever way the Tories point

But he wants to be Prime Minister


I would prefer a clear line
so I know they are a real Labour MP etc


I hated New Labour
it was like New Tory

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The problem, is that everything he supposedly stands for now, is diametrically opposed to what he supposedly stood for when running in the leadership election.

It's not that he doesn't have control over them, it's that no one knows what the party is supposed to stand for any more. If he wants to be a tory-lite party, voters will vote for the real thing 100% of the time.

they are fixated on a manifesto, which in the labour party is arrived at by loads of working groups, all with different agendas coming together and arguing it out. When they are not in an election year, they should be able to provide a few headline policies that give everyone a clue what labour stand for, but I don't think Starmer has the power to create such a policy document without it going through 100 different focus groups. That's where I think labours problems *manifest*

[arista]

[arista]

I do hope you are Happy
Starmer


It would be good of you to go on each news channel
in the morning,
Setting the Record straight

Keir Starmer supports workers
but not stand on a Picket line
because it is against Starmer's Labour Rules

[arista]

Lucy Powell MP
was sent out to Justify the Starmer mess.

Burley on SkyNewsHD
asked should the 4 Cabinet MP's among all the others be sacked ?,

Typical Lucy
said that's up to Keir?


Starmer Say Something on your Rules

[arista]

[Revealed: The 'Spanish practices' 25 Labour MPs
took to picket lines to defend - including 'sending
NINE men to change a plug socket' and
giving drivers 12 minutes' pay for one-minute
walk - as Boris vows to 'stay the course' against unions

Keir Starmer was accused of going into
'hiding' after he refused to comment on
the industrial dispute
Boris Johnson said that the strike was
'wrong and unnecessary' and called for a
return to negotiations
Strike by 40,000 rail workers caused travel
chaos, with fewer than 20 per cent of services
thought to have run
RMT is battling to preserve working
practices said to include sending full
teams for menial task]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ket-lines.html

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm no starmer fan, but I do love tories blaming labour for 12 years of tory destruction.

[arista]

Today on the Early Politics
Live BBC2HD because of the tennis.


Stephen Kinnock Labour MP
said it OK to stand with Strikers

Yesterday Cabinet Member David Lammy MP (On SkyNewsHD & BBC1HD)
said Cabinet MP's should not stand with strikers

5 Labour Cabinet MP's did.
Against Starmers wishes.


Starmer needs to sort this out
can they stand with the next Strikers at Post Office and BT?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Today on the Early Politics
Live BBC2HD because of the tennis.


Stephen Kinnock Labour MP
said it OK to stand with Strikers

Yesterday Cabinet Member David Lammy MP (On SkyNewsHD & BBC1HD)
said Cabinet MP's should not stand with strikers

5 Labour Cabinet MP's did.
Against Starmers wishes.


Starmer needs to sort this out
can they stand with the next Strikers at Post Office and BT?

Starmer needs to sort himself out, not others. If he can't stand with workers when the public does on this issue, then what is he leading the party for, other than weirdo centrists to w@nk themselves silly over.

[arista]

"then what is he leading the party for"



Starmer is Anti Corbyn.
His cabinet must not, stand with any strikers


He thinks it will stop him getting elected as prime minister

[bitontheslide]

Starmer doesn't control his mp's and he never will. There have always been labour mp's that do whatever they want, nothing is different from previous decades

[The Slim Reaper]

I think MP's should always fight for the people they are elected to represent, just because the tories got rid of anyone who didn't have loyalty to dear leader in 2019, doesn't mean that's the right way, and I'd go further and say it's the opposite. Tax payers pay salaries, not the leaders of the parties.

[parmnion]

Its hilarious that only about 18 percent of the people picketing and marching against the Tories support starmer. Hes done a biden and become less popular than the man hes replaced...both are absolutely amazing achievements.

Well done guys.

[Liam-]

Starmer trying to gain the red wall, working class support back, by demanding labour mps don’t stand by working class people is one hell of an arc, those mps standing by the strikers and actually attending the pickets are doing what the Labour Party is meant to do, Starmer is the one taking it in the wrong direction

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Starmer trying to gain the red wall, working class support back, by demanding labour mps don’t stand by working class people is one hell of an arc, those mps standing by the strikers and actually attending the pickets are doing what the Labour Party is meant to do, Starmer is the one taking it in the wrong direction

Yes
but he says they will not get Elected
if Labour Cabinet MPs stand with Strikers

I assume
he is like 2015 Ed Milliband
who took over New Labour
and then deleted the "New"
and lost the general election
wth his massive Tombstone gimmick.

[arista]

I love Number 4.

[arista]

Tony Blair has given
an interview to Newsnight BBC2HD.


He has said Labour will not win the next General Election
if they back load's of Public Sector Strikes.

He supports, Keir Starmer not standing with the Unions.

He also spoke of how in 2005
the LibDems had 22%
it helped him keep the Conservatives out.

[The Slim Reaper]

Tony Blair has a property portfolio of over Ł50m. Of course he thinks working people can afford to keep taking hit after hit.

[arista]

He got away with it.


No Durham Fine for Starmer

https://twitter.com/adamboultonTABB/...70641288806401

[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

He got away with it.


No Durham Fine for Starmer

Swines !!!

I was hoping he’d be offering his resignation hours after he was spotted skipping around excitedly




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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

He got away with it.


No Durham Fine for Starmer

Nothing to get away with.
I have campaigned in 3 general elections.

Any ops sheets are meaningless.
You can be out all dayi in teams.

You often snack during the day while campaigning and leafleting, you stop in the evening then report to the others, work out what has been that day, what is unfinished and needs to be done the next day.
Plus what workers and volunteers are available.

Then yes, you then send out at times for takeaways plus you may reward YOURSELF with even a drink.

This was April to May 2021, when Johnson permitted electioneering and campaigning for Council and by elections.
Which Johnson wanted the by election to be held as they knew they were going to win it.

NO elections were allowed at all in 2020 due to covid.
The government allowed council elections, by elections, mayoral elections and police and crime commisioner elections to now go ahead in these 2 months in 2021.

You do have to eat and drink and you do HAVE to campaign.

There's no fines because there was NOTHING to really investigate in the first place.

[Liam-]

Investigated twice, cleared twice, that should shut the Tories up now, it won’t, but it should

[bitontheslide]

the moment starmer said he would resign if he was found to be breaking the law, this result was guaranteed