[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

What about all the other love interest though?

Ted And Karen
Lonnie And Cynthia
Billy And Heather
Carol And Tommy H.
Billy And Karen

all tragic too

and i do feel the whole max and lucas thing was a little forced

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Vecna is just sooo beautiful, deffo one who i want to recruit in my ''league of villains''


getting in people's minds and destroying people from the inside out, GENIUS



i am starting the Cult of Vecna, my wonderful telepathic king of darkness

Why do I believe you.

[Nicky91]

episode 8

Spoiler:

god damn it Vecna, why spare Nancy, don't give away our masterplan of destroying the world, you had Nancy where you wanted her, you could've snapped her like a twig and you let her go?????

sometimes lords can be such idiots

[ThomasC]

Well, I gave the last episode a go.

Wasn't feeling it before this last episode.

I thought I was going to fall asleep with it being 2.5 hours long but I thought it was very good. There was very little dialogue, which has just been boring before hand, and more action. All the romances I just don't feel them.

Without spoiling it for anyone else it needs to stop now. All things need to come to an end and it was a brilliant ending, but to carry it on is going to get very boring I think. Obviously they are carrying it on because.....

In regards to the acting, the goofy one with braces was 100% stand out for me. He really performed in the last episode and I believed his emotion and my eyes event wet up when he was talking to the dad towards the end.

I would have expected better acting from Winona considering she's suppose to be good? I just found her character unbelievable and the silly faces she pulled which isn't acting. Very little emotion from here in scenes that required it too, couldn't even cry.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ted And Karen
Lonnie And Cynthia
Billy And Heather
Carol And Tommy H.
Billy And Karen

all tragic too

and i do feel the whole max and lucas thing was a little forced

So why single out the gay love interests?

I just don't get it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

So why single out the gay love interests?

I just don't get it.

because its shoehorned in for VS purposes

pointless

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

episode 8

Spoiler:

god damn it Vecna, why spare Nancy, don't give away our masterplan of destroying the world, you had Nancy where you wanted her, you could've snapped her like a twig and you let her go?????

sometimes lords can be such idiots

Vecna is my fav too. I hope him and Will have a gay love story next season. They’d make a cute couple and could rule over the underworld as gay lord husbands.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Mmmm interesting.

The only ones that have really impressed me acting wise are Eleven , Will , Max , Steve Harrington and Winona ..


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I’ll add Lucas to my list of good actors


Nancy is totally unconvincing imho


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[Niamh.]

Finished it last night, it was fantastic.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Well, I gave the last episode a go.

Wasn't feeling it before this last episode.

I thought I was going to fall asleep with it being 2.5 hours long but I thought it was very good. There was very little dialogue, which has just been boring before hand, and more action. All the romances I just don't feel them.

Without spoiling it for anyone else it needs to stop now. All things need to come to an end and it was a brilliant ending, but to carry it on is going to get very boring I think. Obviously they are carrying it on because.....

In regards to the acting, the goofy one with braces was 100% stand out for me. He really performed in the last episode and I believed his emotion and my eyes event wet up when he was talking to the dad towards the end.

I would have expected better acting from Winona considering she's suppose to be good? I just found her character unbelievable and the silly faces she pulled which isn't acting. Very little emotion from here in scenes that required it too, couldn't even cry.

Loved her since the 90's, the "silly faces" is just her though, it how she expresses herself, you can see that in interviews with her too. She's quirky and a bit different, i love that about her

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Loved her since the 90's, the "silly faces" is just her though, it how she expresses herself, you can see that in interviews with her too. She's quirky and a bit different, i love that about her

Nancy really irritates me as an actress
- I can’t put my finger on it but she reminds me of how they act in Friends and the like


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[Niamh.]

Also am I the only one who didn't love Eddie Munson? I found him a bit cringey in his acting and also

Spoiler:

I don't get the point in him sacrificing himself at the end, for what exactly, it wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome at all

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also am I the only one who didn't love Eddie Munson? I found him a bit cringey in his acting and also

Spoiler:

I don't get the point in him sacrificing himself at the end, for what exactly, it wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome at all

Spoiler:

well it was to distract the bats otherwise max might have been dead and the other guy...they would have flew back to the house...he gave them more time

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Spoiler:

well it was to distract the bats otherwise max might have been dead and the other guy...they would have flew back to the house...he gave them more time

Spoiler:

by the other guy do you mean Lucas? He wasn't even in the upside down though

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Spoiler:

by the other guy do you mean Lucas? He wasn't even in the upside down though

I think the reason was because the bats would have stopped Nancy Steve and Robin from the last phase, the killing of vecna. It all had gone wrong by that point anyway obviously but Eddie wasn't to know that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

I think the reason was because the bats would have stopped Nancy Steve and Robin from the last phase, the killing of vecna. It all had gone wrong by that point anyway obviously but Eddie wasn't to know that

fair enough, just looked like a massive waste of time to me

[UserSince2005]

Also im not sure if anyone could answer this for me but it bugged me all season a major flaw in the story line.

They knew to use music to save Max because that is how the dad of One said he survived the demon.
But then later in the season it was shown that the dads story was completely made up and that the demon didnt exist.
I just didnt like how this all added up.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Also im not sure if anyone could answer this for me but it bugged me all season a major flaw in the story line.

They knew to use music to save Max because that is how the dad of One said he survived the demon.
But then later in the season it was shown that the dads story was completely made up and that the demon didnt exist.
I just didnt like how this all added up.

It was these feelings of guilt(wanting her brother to die) and trauma that Vecna (Jamie Campbell Bower) preyed upon in Stranger Things season 4. In fact, Max was on the verge of being killed by him when her friends played her favorite song, Kate Bush's “Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)” and this appeared to be the thing that saved her. However, within the red smoke of Vecna’s Mind Lair, it wasn't the song itself that saved her, but the memories it conjured up. What broke through to Max was the happy, loving memories of her friends, particularly Lucas and Eleven, and these were what truly allowed her to break free of Vecna’s grasp and escape.

https://screenrant.com/stranger-thin...sic-explained/

[Niamh.]

Also the dads story wasn't completely made up, Henry wasn't Vecna in the upside down yet but he did have powers back then and was able to hurt people (see how he killed everyone at the hospital) Nancy and Robin thought the dad hearing his favourite song (Dream a Little Dream) was what saved him because the dad said he remembers listening to it but what actually saved him was that Henry still wasn't as powerful as he would later become and he passed out because he'd over stretched himself with his powers

[Strictly Jake]

Theres also talk that way saved will in the upside down was when they played should I stay or should I go. But with vecna doing all this all along its weird he didn't kill will, or try and lift him up etc like everyone else. Maybe will didn't have a trauma that vecna was interested in?

However I think Will might prove to have been evil all along. He was worried in this season and surely it's more than just a story of being gay

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Theres also talk that way saved will in the upside down was when they played should I stay or should I go. But with vecna doing all this all along its weird he didn't kill will, or try and lift him up etc like everyone else. Maybe will didn't have a trauma that vecna was interested in?

However I think Will might prove to have been evil all along. He was worried in this season and surely it's more than just a story of being gay

There might be a reason he kept Will alive that will be revealed next season, maybe he was using him as a back plan for if something happens to him (like now he's weakened and is going to "activate him" or something in Season 5

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There might be a reason he kept Will alive that will be revealed next season, maybe he was using him as a back plan for if something happens to him (like now he's weakened and is going to "activate him" or something in Season 5

Yeah I agree I can see this happening

Also just watching the final episode again now as fancied it, I think another reason Eddie sacrificed himself is that he would have just been put in prison and had everyone hate him whether he survive or not, we saw that on his missing poster, so he didn't want to be a coward and run away he wanted to be a hero, it was a way to protect Dustin and allow the plan of killing vecna to be given the best chance

[Niamh.]

It's true He gave me massive Tom Cruise vibes as well Bleh

[Nicky91]

Spoiler:

my poor Vecna, what have those idiot moronic children done to you luckily i was able to rescue you and drag you to safety and thankfully that bitch Max died and our plan succeeded


this is why you should've killed Nancy before she had chance to shoot you

[Nicky91]

why don't you just die and stay dead, Eleven


ugh sometimes



but now at least we know what her weak spot is, Mike we gotta strike her in the heart, and take him down first