[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Liz: "families are struggling with food bills"

no we dont get bills for food you utter drongo

she delivered everything though

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i going to watch now on +1

been in garden

I liked the Format.

[LeatherTrumpet]

i think we should have songs

Rishi: "Tonight i am Right said Fred"

Liz: " tonight I am “I’ve Got all This Ringing in my Ears and None on My Fingers” by Fall Out Boy

Penny: Tonight I am Skrewdriver singing "White Power"

its ITV ffs

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Liz says we only have 2 years.

No General Election from of any them
Why should they
Gordon Brown Took over in New Labour.
Did not call one until they call one until the last moment.

As I predicted


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[bitontheslide]

it was pretty brutal the way they attacked each other. I don't think they will be able to walk any of it back once the new leader is chosen

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

what i don't like about Sunak is that he refuses to recognise the realities of the hardships that people are experiencing now. All his responses take years to implement

Guess he’ll never really appreciate how difficult it is for poor ones at the bottom - given his wealth


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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry, I didn't like this format.

It just opened up for more confrontation than to REALLY inform and to be able to learn anything.

agreed

its like

say a slogan

NEXT

say a slogan

NEXT

[bitontheslide]

the stand out for me is that anything they could get blamed for they label cabinet collective responsibility, anything else, it was all their individual good work

None of the candidates would be a good leader by my definition, but i'm not their target audience

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the stand out for me is that anything they could get blamed for they label cabinet collective responsibility, anything else, it was all their individual good work

None of the candidates would be a good leader by my definition, but i'm not their target audience

Typical political behaviour, surely ?


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[LeatherTrumpet]

a terrible "debate"

[LeatherTrumpet]

Breaking: Rishi Sunak narrow winner among public, poll suggests

Out of 1,001 people surveyed by Opinium as part of a snap poll, 24 per cent thought
Rishi Sunak won, with the former Chancellor closely followed by Tom Tugendhat (19 per
cent).

Penny Mourdant ranked third with 17 per cent, followed by Liz Truss (15 per cent) and
Kemi Badenoch (12 per cent).

DT

[bitontheslide]

how could Tom "did i tell you what i did during the war" possibly come second

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

how could Tom "did i tell you what i did during the war" possibly come second

Guess it won’t matter if the MPs don’t rate him - as he won’t get to the final two .


I kinda feel that Rishi and Truss have already got this sown up by offering jobs out left , right and centre .

Then when it goes to the public vote very few will vote for Rishi


Loads of MPs are on record as saying WHOEVER goes up against Rushi will WIN !!


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’m already sick of TomT’s constant army references ..

“ I’m ready to serve “

I’ve found nothing online to suggest he was a war hero or whatever .
He was in the TA ( part-time role as an officer in the British Army reserves) for about ten years .. 4 of them were in a civilian capacity, for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO), and helped set up the National Security Council of Afghanistan


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Interesting




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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a terrible "debate"

You are right.
I didn't like it at all.

[smudgie]

Hoping it’s Rishi and Penny.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hoping it’s Rishi and Penny.

I get the impression that the MPs will cast her aside for some reason


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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting




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Hardly a good survey ffs

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I’ve found nothing online to suggest he was a war hero or whatever .

[bitontheslide]

You had to keep reminding yourself these were five people who are actually in the same party.

And the two of them taking the greatest lumps out of each other sat around the same cabinet table a fortnight ago.

Changing leaders between elections can offer a party a chance to renew in office.

It also offers plentiful opportunity for it to rip itself to shreds in public.

There are nerves in Conservative circles that Sunday evening's debate was rather more the latter than the former.

So after a weekend of two and a half hours of primetime television debate and acres of newsprint, where do we find ourselves as we enter the second week of the Conservative leadership contest?

TV debates serve up real jeopardy, particularly for those with the most to lose.

On Friday's debate on Channel 4, the two outsiders, in terms of their support among Conservative MPs so far at least, seemed to relish it, perhaps pleasantly surprised they had made it so far.

Kemi Badenoch and Tom Tugendhat were probably the least known to most viewers, and with little to lose.

Whereas the big three, in terms of votes so far, Rishi Sunak, Penny Mordaunt and Liz Truss, feared going backwards; denting their solid starts.

Things felt different in the ITV debate.

The format, for a start.

Without the punctuation marks of a live audience in the studio, with its questions and applause, and with the addition of some nifty ideas such as each candidate being able to put a question to just one other, the exchanges felt sharper, more spiky.

The candidates addressed each other rather than the audience in the studio, and often archly.

Team Truss are candid: "Liz was better tonight that on Friday" one aide told me.

"She is the clear heavyweight on the economy to rival Rishi. That was a battle of the grown ups between Liz and Rishi, with Liz the 'change' candidate on the economy," a source added.

They want to portray a Sunak premiership - economically at least - as more of the same as what's gone before, without the scruffy blonde hair.

Yet again Mr Sunak was the focus of most, if not all of the barbs coming from his opponents.

Or, we should remind ourselves, colleagues.

I'm told his question to Liz Truss, "what do you regret most, being a Lib Dem or being a Remainer?" was meant to be light hearted.

It didn't sound anything of the sort. More like a laser guided zap at her true Conservative credentials.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62202108

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[letmein]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Liz: "families are struggling with food bills"

no we dont get bills for food you utter drongo

You get them when you go to pay for your food, silly. Unless you’re stealing it.

[bitontheslide]

will be interesting if the debates had any affect on the mp's voting later today