[Oliver_W]

Does it really matter what he says or condemns? He's not even in Labour anymore, let alone their leader

I swear the only people who still care about him are those who want to get annoyed about everything he says...

[Nicky91]

UK should not get involved no, otherwise it'll go into a war


good on Corbyn for not walking along like the rest of the political correct sheep



Ukraine are former soviet-union so only former soviet-union are at risk of being attacked, anyone outside soviet-union zone the russians have no problems with, and we should keep it that way or else we make more enemies than necessary

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

UK should not get involved no, otherwise it'll go into a war


good on Corbyn for not walking along like the rest of the political correct sheep



Ukraine are former soviet-union so only former soviet-union are at risk of being attacked, anyone outside soviet-union zone the russians have no problems with, and we should keep it that way or else we make more enemies than necessary

Not to "go there" because Hitler comparisons are eye-rolling, but should the Allied Forces have not intervened, because it led to a World War?

[Alf]

It's all a load of bollocks anyway. The American media are changing their tune and turning on Zelenskyy now.

Ukraine, Taiwan. I think it's all about the deep state getting taken down.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Not to "go there" because Hitler comparisons are eye-rolling, but should the Allied Forces have not intervened, because it led to a World War?

that's totally different though


Hitler wanted global domination, this is a very personal matter between former soviet-union countries


how Putin has always said it ''a strategic military operation, not a war'' and the Donetsk and Luhansk regions were already pro-russian for a longer time, sooo the problems within Ukraine are somehow also something internal

he basically responded to Donetsk, Luhansk their calls for a power struggle, and at first he sent forces to help out with their defences, but of course rest of ukraine nation saw this as a ''invasion'' and from there it got out of control a lot, Donetsk and Luhansk regional leaders wanted independence from the rest of ukraine

all the sanctions on Russia of course added more fuel to the fire


Soviet-Union helped us out big time ending WW2 lets not forget that like ever, with the invasion of Berlin, cornering Hitler more and more


in a way (and sorry if i come across wrongly) Putin is right about some ''nazi-traits'' within Ukraine, not allowing donetsk, luhansk regions to have some freedoms, but being very nationalistic about it, not defending his actions but i myself cannot defend Ukraine either, i'm sorry but i just can't

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if starmer is following the new labour path, well, Blair was a consummate warmonger so there should be no worries there

Consummate warmonger ??

How many conflicts have Con leaders got us involved in.

Are you trying to indicate that a Con PM would have actually refused to support George W Bush on the 2nd invasion of Iraq.
Because I'm 100% sure any Con PM would have gone in there again too.
With the same outcomes.

Blair was wrong on his reasoning but nothing would have been different under the Cons as to Iraq.
Which I would never have supported.

Thatcher had the Falklands and the first Iraq invasion carried on by Major.
Which party leader got us involved in Libya and other conflicts too.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

that's totally different though


Hitler wanted global domination, this is a very personal matter between former soviet-union countries

I'm sure the people being invaded really care about the intricate differences between the motives.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm sure the people being invaded really care about the intricate differences between the motives.

''invaded''


after threatening donetsk, luhansk regions that there'll be force if they don't give up on their demands of independence

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he is pro russia

are you?

i am pro russia


and are you going to do anything about that? i am entitled to my own freedoms of opinion


rather than being told to shut up and jump on the slavi ukraini bull**** bandwagon like a bunch of sheep

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i am pro russia


and are you going to do anything about that? i am entitled to my own freedoms of opinion


rather than being told to shut up and jump on the slavi ukraini bull**** bandwagon like a bunch of sheep

yeah nicky, if you didn't change your opinion with the wind people would take you more seriously

[Nicky91]

Youtube video

seems like ukraine's victim role is infectious, now moldova are also acting like a bunch of crybabies


they would have nothing to fear tbh, since they do not have a internal conflict going on, ukraine situation is just something internal, government vs donetsk, lugansk


zelensky should've just allowed those regions to get some of their desired independences under russian protection, but nooooo hunger for national domination

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim condemns arms being sent to Ukraine, shocker

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Folks need to get round the table, as that's the only way to resolve this.