[BBDodge]

Looking at the Wikipedia pages for the early shows:

BB1 - no twists at all

BB2 - only twist was the public voting in an extra housemate from a choice of 3. But the housemates were told on Day 1 that a new housemate would enter after the 1st eviction.

BB3 - the first nomination twist when the viewers put 2 up for eviction and the Housemates chose which one to keep (unwittingly creating the Jade Goody phenomenon). Then later we had the rich/poor divide. We also had the first letters from home with 2 housemates chosen to receive them in return for being put up for eviction.

BB4 - This was where the twists gathered momentum. The Day 1 nomination twist sealed Anouska's fate. We had Cameron jetting off to Africa with Gaetano guesting here. We had the first double eviction which saw Fed & Jon going but they then felt they had to bring Jon back to liven up the show, even though he couldn't win. Bit of a mess.

Since then the gloves were off. We've had secret rooms, fake evictions, face-to-face noms, friends and family noms, returning housemates who could win, multiple evictions, nominations reversed so those with the least noms faced the vote, killer noms, immunity for a single eviction or all the way to the final, housemates' partners being thrown in, couples in the house from the start, fake housemates, moles, etc. etc.

It became a rarity to have a week when the housemates just nominated in secret and those with the most votes faced the public vote for a single eviction with no return.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

Looking at the Wikipedia pages for the early shows:

BB1 - no twists at all

BB2 - only twist was the public voting in an extra housemate from a choice of 3. But the housemates were told on Day 1 that a new housemate would enter after the 1st eviction.

BB3 - the first nomination twist when the viewers put 2 up for eviction and the Housemates chose which one to keep (unwittingly creating the Jade Goody phenomenon). Then later we had the rich/poor divide. We also had the first letters from home with 2 housemates chosen to receive them in return for being put up for eviction.

BB4 - This was where the twists gathered momentum. The Day 1 nomination twist sealed Anouska's fate. We had Cameron jetting off to Africa with Gaetano guesting here. We had the first double eviction which saw Fed & Jon going but they then felt they had to bring Jon back to liven up the show, even though he couldn't win. Bit of a mess.

Since then the gloves were off. We've had secret rooms, fake evictions, face-to-face noms, friends and family noms, returning housemates who could win, multiple evictions, nominations reversed so those with the least noms faced the vote, killer noms, immunity for a single eviction or all the way to the final, housemates' partners being
thrown in, couples in the house from the start, fake housemates, moles, etc. etc.

It became a rarity to have a week when the housemates just nominated in secret and those with the most votes faced the public vote for a single eviction with no return.

It's hard to come up with new twists and idea , when pretty much everything has already been done to death. I really don't think they'll be able to do anything fresh and fun . It will just be the same old thing again.

I'm struggling to think of a new twist myself .

[_Seth]

Even if they did come up with new twists, the very idea of having a twist is so overdone. It'd be more of a twist to just let the core format play out.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by _Seth

Even if they did come up with new twists, the very idea of having a twist is so overdone. It'd be more of a twist to just let the core format play out.

That's why I think it will just be the same old tired format again. I really don't see the point in bringing it back tbh.

[_Seth]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's why I think it will just be the same old tired format again. I really don't see the point in bringing it back tbh.

The old format hasn't been faithfully reproduced so it isn't tired. What's old becomes new, at any rate.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by _Seth

Even if they did come up with new twists, the very idea of having a twist is so overdone. It'd be more of a twist to just let the core format play out.

The word twist is so broad that it can interpreted in a variety of ways. I guess to be more precise I should have said format changes/ideas rather than twists in the thread title. That said I created the thread because I wanted to spark some creative discussions around what the potential new series could look like and I thought twists was the best way to describe that.

As for the rest of your comments twists weren't necessarily a problem so much as the lack of integrity surrounding them.

[thom_bombadil]

Originally Posted by kingston

The word twist is so broad that it can interpreted in a variety of ways. I guess to be more precise I should have said format changes/ideas rather than twists in the thread title. That said I created the thread because I wanted to spark some creative discussions around what the potential new series could look like and I thought twists was the best way to describe that.

As for the rest of your comments twists weren't necessarily a problem so much as the lack of integrity surrounding them.

I’ve seen you post a lot on here, and I disagree with pretty much everything you say.

[Brekkie]

It's new "format points" rather than "twists" they need for the relaunch. And then the key format points play out almost twist free throughout. Any twists are kept simple - for example a double eviction or nominating who you want to win in the final week rather than nominating for eviction. The sort of thing we did see in BB1-4 when all twists were strictly without compromising the core format.


One other thing I'd like restored to ensure credibility to the series and protect the show and the housemates is a return of the formal "three strikes" system. What compromised the show in it's latter years was people being thrown out on a whim at producers discretion, or not being thrown out and being seen to not face the consequences of their action. The nominations and eviction system should be the main way housemates face consequences, but for anything beyond that use the strike system. It was only formally used in BB3 but even then we saw how getting one strike modified behaviour, never mind two.

[arista]

New Rule
if any housemate that refuses to Leave

Again put the Prize money on the Screen
take off £100 every minute
the housemate refuses to leave

Once, they rush into the Diary Room
the Clock Stops


It was done before
and worked

[Strictly Jake]

I think it would be good to completely change what we knew about big brother

But rather we have a reboot, take it back to being an experiment. But a modern day futuristic experiment. Base it off what the term 'Big Brother' is all about.

It should be sinister. Going off how far technology is advancing. Talks of people getting microchipped to work for certain businesses. How much technology phones now have. How far robot technology has come along. We are having hologram concerts. People are having relationships with virtual people. You know the list goes on and on. We aren't sure just how far it will go

However why not make big brother all about that, make it sinister, make it like a real black mirror, play on the dystopian vibe of what the future may hold, build a brand new house that has all this technology. Have people eliminated for failing Big Brothers demands. Don't cast fame hungry people, but people that want to know what a future controlled by technology will look like on the cast

I can imagine loads of people wanting to watch something like that, it would be fascinating

Yes it removes anything that big brother was as a reality show but we have seen it all pretty much haven't we

BB15 at the very start had some potential for this with the power trip vibe and the control room but it was never pulled off how it should have been

Past Big Brother is cheesy and past it's sell by date it needs dragging into the future

[Strictly Jake]

Can you imagine in city centres and stuff where the huge billboards usually are, holograms of the housemates up for the chop appearing pleading with the public for them to save them, or tasks along the lines of squid game without the death element.

I think the prize money should be £1 million due to how intense it would be

There could be even some of these advanced virtual robots on the cast too

[Nicky91]

balloons in the house, with cards in them for immunity

Spoiler:

but whoever doesn't get a card wins the immunity instead

this was a good twist in our series this year, such a complete mind****


58 yr old Kitty especially being pissed off, first one with a card in diary room for once being the first ready, and then they do it like this

[The Slim Reaper]

Get rid of adverts.

[Liam-]

The ultimate twist would be to have no twists whatsoever

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The ultimate twist would be to have no twists whatsoever

You’ve clearly been spending to much time with BBUS purists.

[?]

It'd be good if on entrance night, the prize fund was set as £250,000 - but with the potential of raising it to £500,000.

You could still keep the Monday/Tuesday food shopping tasks, but on the weekend, have a more 'intense' challenge and if the housemates fail, money is taken from the prize fund, and if they pass, it's added on.

It'd create more drama and increase the gameplay from the housemates (BBUS style) whilst maintaining an organic element to the 'social experiment' style of the show from the early days. If rules are broken, money is taken from the fund etc etc.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by ?

It'd be good if on entrance night, the prize fund was set as £250,000 - but with the potential of raising it to £500,000.

You could still keep the Monday/Tuesday food shopping tasks, but on the weekend, have a more 'intense' challenge and if the housemates fail, money is taken from the prize fund, and if they pass, it's added on.

It'd create more drama and increase the gameplay from the housemates (BBUS style) whilst maintaining an organic element to the 'social experiment' style of the show from the early days. If rules are broken, money is taken from the fund etc etc.

TBH I’m not a fan of taking money from the prize fund for fines. BBAU did it and I don’t feel it really added anything substantial to the series other than to give BB more of a reason to tell off HM’s.

In terms of making the show more competitive I did like the BigCoin twist from BB18 and would have loved to see that twist be given a rework in a future series.

I think for me any twists used in this new series need to start small and be able to be expended on in future series. Similar to the way that BB5/6/7 did.

[Josy]

None.

Needs to go back to the basic format for it to work IMO

[bitontheslide]

it's 2023 so the show has to reflect what works for that audience

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

None.

Needs to go back to the basic format for it to work IMO

Also do what they did in
Australia Big Brother which was on E4HD.

[arista]

Originally Posted by _Seth

Even if they did come up with new twists, the very idea of having a twist is so overdone. It'd be more of a twist to just let the core format play out.

But on E4HD Australia Celeb Big Brother
the Twists made is very Exciting

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Get rid of adverts.

But you can pay extra online
on the ITV Site
to get no ads



So NO Slim
ads are staying
unless you can afford the daily fee,

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If it does come back, I don’t want to see any nomination twists as all, it needs to be taken back to what it used to be, just a straight anonymous vote and the people with the most nominations, went up for eviction

This for me too.

The twists on nominations really got to ruin things in my opinion.
Just awful.

[Jessica.]

none

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Josy

None.

Needs to go back to the basic format for it to work IMO

Back to basics doesn’t mean there can’t be twists.