[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

The TUC has done a Video,
a French Lady saying they only pay 4% for EDF.
As they have Nationalised

And a British bloke paying over 54% for bills



I do not understand why Starmer is not
saying he will Nationalise the Energy Companies?

It could get him into power.

You along with the majority of Labour members and voters don't understand that either arista.
Even many lost Labour voters.

Even in 2019 despite that election defeat.
The Nationalisation policy was the MOST popular.

Starmer says he's pragmatic on Nationalisation.
Sorry but he needs a good shaking to WAKE him up !!!

[arista]

But this is an Emergency


It has all changed fast.

Starmer could win power
by going like France

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You along with the majority of Labour members and voters don't understand that either arista.
Even many lost Labour voters.

Even in 2019 despite that election defeat.
The Nationalisation policy was the MOST popular.

Starmer says he's pragmatic on Nationalisation.
Sorry but he needs a good shaking to WAKE him up !!!

The right wing press haven't been nearly as critical of Starmer, so I would almost guarantee they've made a deal to ease off him as long as he doesn't do anything that will hurt their pockets. There's a reason he did an interview in the sun after saying he never would.

The press know that labour are due to win, especially after the absolute destruction of the last 12 years, so if they can direct his policy they'll take it for an election or two.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The right wing press haven't been nearly as critical of Starmer, so I would almost guarantee they've made a deal to ease off him as long as he doesn't do anything that will hurt their pockets. There's a reason he did an interview in the sun after saying he never would.

The press know that labour are due to win, especially after the absolute destruction of the last 12 years, so if they can direct his policy they'll take it for an election or two.

I think you're spot on Slim.

[arista]

[bitontheslide]

he has opened the door to a nightmare. Now if the unions cut their funding they are ****ed, but if he gives in and takes the money, the tories will say he is in the pockets of the unions, he can't win

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he has opened the door to a nightmare. Now if the unions cut their funding they are ****ed, but if he gives in and takes the money, the tories will say he is in the pockets of the unions, he can't win

The last guy took over a broke party, and left Keir Ł13m and 200k new memberships. Lord Starmer has destroyed both already.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he has opened the door to a nightmare. Now if the unions cut their funding they are ****ed, but if he gives in and takes the money, the tories will say he is in the pockets of the unions, he can't win

Well not really as to your latter point.
Since the funding is already being payed to Labour now anyhow.
Which just about everyone knows.
So for it to continue will be the status quo really.

If he recognises these justified strikes, for me and millions of others he'd be doing the right thing for once.
Not everyone thankfully sees the Unions as only being bad guys.

I'd like to see the likes of who fully bankroll the Con Party.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well not really as to your latter point.
Since the funding is already being payed to Labour now anyhow.
Which just about everyone knows.
So for it to continue will be the status quo really.

If he recognises these justified strikes, for me and millions of others he'd be doing the right thing for once.
Not everyone thankfully sees the Unions as only being bad guys.

I'd like to see the likes of who fully bankroll the Con Party.

Hallo. My name is Dave Smith, I am great English Patriot. I give money to conservativski party for great success of nation.

[bitontheslide]

we know the tory party only take money from donors anxious to improve the UK with no expectation of a kick back

[arista]

[Lisa Nandy visits picket line despite
Keir Starmer's instruction that frontbenchers
should not attend strikes

Sir Keir Starmer sacked shadow
transport minister Sam Tarry after he gave
broadcast interviews from a picket line last
week and made up policy "on the hoof".]



https://news.sky.com/story/lisa-nand...rikes-12663635

[Zizu]

Let’s see if he stands by his words


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Let’s see if he stands by his words

No he will let Lisa off

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Let’s see if he stands by his words


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After your love affair with the big dog, I have no idea why you would ever get miffed when anyone else might break their word.

[joeysteele]

Starmer stated he DIDN'T sack Sam Tarry for attending a picket line.
He stated he sacked him for giving media interviews.

He SHOULDN'T have sacked him anyhow in my view.

However Lisa hasn't given an unofficial media interview.
So even on his own fudged and ridiculous statement on Tarry, Starmer has no reason to sack Lisa.
Unless he has a death wish for the next election.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

After your love affair with the big dog, I have no idea why you would ever get miffed when anyone else might break their word.

What goes round comes round ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Starmer stated he DIDN'T sack Sam Tarry for attending a picket line.
He stated he sacked him for giving media interviews.

He SHOULDN'T have sacked him anyhow in my view.

However Lisa hasn't given an unofficial media interview.
So even on his own fudged and ridiculous statement on Tarry, Starmer has no reason to sack Lisa.
Unless he has a death wish for the next election.

Surely it just shows even more weakness if he lays down guidelines and high ranking mps simply ignore them ?


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Surely it just shows even more weakness if he lays down guidelines and high ranking mps simply ignore them ?


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Not really.

His main weaknesses for me is that he doesn't clearly state policies.
Along with not keeping the popular policies he should.

[The Slim Reaper]

The man who removed the whip from the most honourable man in politics.

[bitontheslide]

they were minor breaches though apparently, so, as it's not Boris, those don't count

[joeysteele]

Oh dear.
Mr squeaky clean not so much so re finance.

Not a good look at all this.

[Zizu]

This has to be a resignation surely ?




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[arista]

Starmer in Scotland.
BBCnewsHD
SkyNewsHD

Speaking
Holiday ending early

Calling the PM a lame duck?


He is doing a Big Speech on Monday

[arista]

He will Abolish Pre Payment
Extra Charges


He says Water Companies are not doing enough.