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Old 04-08-2022, 04:58 PM #201
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If he's brain dead though, he won't feel it.

Sadly, its also a waste of resources to move him and the cost involved will be quite high. The trust will be thinking of that too. A lot of things cone down to money.

I feel for the parent's massively and am sure if I were in their shoes I would be feeling and doing the same. They will be existing on next to no sleep, be consumed with grief and getting advice from dubious (from the looks of them) sources. However, I agree they are lashing out at the wrong people, the medical staff will have lost sleep over this too I'm sure....they train to save people, not to let them die

At this point, I am sure the family will be better trying to be with Archie as much as possible and to just show him their love.

I can't blame the parents, I can't blame the medical staff and I can't blame the courts. The situation is heartbreaking. I have had very strong conversations with my son who is almost the same age as Archie....as these crazes terrify me and sadly end like this far too often
Sadly I agree Annie about the money part,sad times.
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I read that Archie suffered a Cardiac Arrest moving him for a scan...so I guess any sort of move will risk them not having their final wish.
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Just because he won’t feel the trauma his body goes through in the move, doesn’t mean they should disrespect his body in death by doing it
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have turned the bloody thing off yet?
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Sadly I agree Annie about the money part,sad times.
The Trust is who will be concerned on costs.

The Doctors clearly have believed they've done all they could.

Again I still feel and this case has really upset and saddened me.
I still think I'd be doing much the same as the family.
If it were my son or even in fact a relative or close friend of mine

Tragic and heartbreaking.
A living nightmare for them.
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Whatever the decision today, I hope the parent's are able to accept it. These constant legal battles are taking away time they could be spending with him and I think in time they could regret that.

Whatever happens, it will be a heartbreaking day for them.
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Frankly it's almost ghoulish that a dead body with brain necrosis and body breaking down is being kept going.
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they lost their son on the day of the accident. What they don't seem to have grasped is that it is the NHS staff that have maintained the lads "life" to the point that there is nothing more they can do for him. There will always be conflicting views on what is best for the lad and that is what the court is there to resolve. The court doesn't make a decision based on emotion, it decides based on facts.
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I will keep Archie and his family in my thoughts today.

The medics too, they I know hate losing any patients never mind a child of 12.

However, in situations like this when conflict occurs.
There needs to be a better way to deal with that.
Courts deal in law.
There is no law on grief and grieving.

If the Court refuses transfer then I hope some way Archie's family can cope with not having him In a more appropriate environment and just be there as they lose him officially to the end.

For me this is one of the most tragic and heartbreaking cases.
Bless Archie and my thoughts are with his family.
I'd never want to give up without trying everything for any child of mine or any other of my loved ones.

It's a heartbreaking situation and leaving no real winners.
I hope his Parents and family can find some peace now eventually.
For both them and their soon to be officially lost son Archie.
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tot up the bill please. i want to know how much this has all cost us.
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tot up the bill please. i want to know how much this has all cost us.

No, they will not do that.
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I dont know if they are being led on by greedy Lawyers or what....however didnt the husband collapse 2 weeks ago under the pressure. They need to now just accept the decisions in the knowledge that they tried their best...and now let Archie rest...its all starting to look a bit ugly.
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I dont know if they are being led on by greedy Lawyers or what....however didnt the husband collapse 2 weeks ago under the pressure. They need to now just accept the decisions in the knowledge that they tried their best...and now let Archie rest...its all starting to look a bit ugly.
I agree now. I think they have done all that is possible and every court and every expert have now said the same. I understand they want to do all they can but they are now wasting the precious time they have left with their boy. I think they are being badly advised now, it is time to spend every minute with their beautiful boy and let him go.

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who started this ridiculous tiktok dare anyroad?
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I agree now. I think they have done all that is possible and every court and every expert have now said the same. I understand they want to do all they can but they are now wasting the precious time they have left with their boy. I think they are being badly advised now, it is time to spend every minute with their beautiful boy and let him go.

Heartbreaking

The thing is with every passing day his body is deteriorating.
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I don't think the parents are being rational at this point, and I can sympathise with that. I think they picked the wrong advisors and it has turned something that should be private into a media circus
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who started this ridiculous tiktok dare anyroad?
its all a load of baloney, i haven't see any tiktok challenges where to have to strangle yourself.

I dont know what was going through archies mind and why he was trying to strangle himself but the whole tiktok thing is a load of rubbish
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The family need to stop being selfish now and out the needs and dignity of this kid before themselves, the spectacle they’ve created around their sons dead body is frankly, nauseating
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its all a load of baloney, i haven't see any tiktok challenges where to have to strangle yourself.

I dont know what was going through archies mind and why he was trying to strangle himself but the whole tiktok thing is a load of rubbish
Considering 7kids have died doing the challenge its pretty real I'd say.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are multiple lawsuits ongoing with TikTok because of it.
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Considering 7kids have died doing the challenge its pretty real I'd say.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are multiple lawsuits ongoing with TikTok because of it.


Yes Shocking to have 7 kids dead from this challenge
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Considering 7kids have died doing the challenge its pretty real I'd say.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are multiple lawsuits ongoing with TikTok because of it.
Why wasn’t he filming himself at the time? His parents have just jumped to the conclusion because they clearly can’t accept reality.
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